The client will already be sent the opponents hole cards once you're both all in, so it makes sense to just calculate odds client side once that's received. If you're displaying odds accounting for folded cards you'd want to do it server side and be careful only to send that information once action is over. I'm guessing since GG offers insurance it makes more sense for server side.

More superusers are good for the game because they drive the pros away and therefore the games get softer in general. This will probably be his statement on this

Guys, i would also appreciate if you check out my thread on how russian GG support is lying.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...lying-1829885/

Hacker didnt even have to play any hands after a transfer to himself to withdraw. How ****ing crazy is that.

Lurker here who decided to create an account to point out something not being mentioned here.. especially when it comes to confidence in GGPoker.

I think they effectively shot themselves in the foot with one sentence in particular:

"Additionally, we are actively recruiting to double the size of our technical security team and are enlisting help from renowned security professionals to ensure that online poker is safer than ever."

You are going to DOUBLE the size of your technical security team?! I interpret this one of two ways

1. Your technical security team is small and you're only taking action now because something was publicly identified. That means you willingly risked security and integrity in exchange for a healthier bottom line.

2. You didn't willingly risk security and integrity, so your technical security team is more than small. Doubling in size tells me you're worried about something else. Doing this isn't cheap, so why now?

Only my two cents.

If GG screwed up this bad with an aspect as important as game integrity, just imagine what else they are ignoring? I would withdraw any funds from GG immediatily.

Seems like typical flawed corporate thinking of just hiring more people. Nine women can't have a baby in a month.

Really embarrassing for GG they couldn't catch a cheater so blatant they may have been trying to get caught.

hacker finds exploit, tells all his friends, 1 of them is a idiot(doesn't understand the concept of when win rates are ridiculous it arises suspicioun) and ruins it for everybody else, GG blames only 1 culprit and only reimburses people with the money they were able to confiscate and says "all is well guys" nothing to see here, it was just a isolated incident" keep depositing you guys are not being cheated, we did right by you guys and reimbursed the 29k "while the amount cheated was likely in the millions. Business continues as usual idiots keep depositing their hard earned money to a site that just admitted there's shady **** going on and you have been superused by atleast 1 person. If it took this long and a person posting undeniable proof to catch 1 person who was not even trying to conceal his cheating? Think of how many people have gotten away with no other money to "confiscate".

Glad I never touched GG and just printed on wsop and stars

well this is certainly my thoughts of a possible scenario surrounding it

I wouldn't bet a dime on them hiring anyone. Fact is to the majority of brainless poker players that's simply a great PR line for anyone looking to defend GG poker. Dneg will probably quote that line word for word when he comments on this topic.

Cheers!!!

I think Malmuth has been paid by the hackers.

they also ran too many 2x multipliers in spin and gos, effectively meaning players were paying too much in rake

this was only noticed as the ev pools saw that there were too few bigger multipliers, and they had to issue refunds.

add that to the growing list of shadiness

Don't know if it was mentioned but maybe this person just used some "magic" or drugs to be able to se other people cards?

probability of this being used by a few players (at least 5 or 6) and only 1 was an idiot is pretty high

these hackers always work in groups

To believe that there was only 1 person involved, a person that couldn't foresee that having impossible winrates over 1000's of hands would arise questions, and that this person would be smart enough to be the one who would hack the site and find this exploit would be stupid logic. We all know people cheating work in teams no matter what the cheat is, 1 solo cheater with a new account can only cheat people out of so much money before the account is flagged and a internal security team starts looking at it, but if you have a team working even if half the money gets confiscated you still make off like bandits. Basicly since the window is likely limited you need a coordinated group attack to print as much money as possible(1 account won't let you do this). To think this is a isolated incident, even the people at GGpoker can't believe this. They are just trying to do damage control and conceal this incident, as who would play on a site with confirmed superusers basicly? Obviously the other people involved in this scandal had the mental capacity of making it "look good and not so obvious", maybe even at the highest stakes?

Hi Mason, I (almost certainly) have more of a background in statistics than you do. In the future, why not just do the actual analysis and present the results? You have all the necessary information in the post, and even a napkin analysis would've told you something out of line was going on here. You'd need tens of millions of very active players on the site to expect to see a result like this. I don't think this type of comment adds anything to the discussion.

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There is a 0% chance that this was a "client side vulnerability". I hope that this issue gets the attention that it deserves as the explanation doesn't make sense from a technical perspective, only from PR perspective.

Data is sent from server to client in 2 main ways. One being data that can be accessed by anyone (good example is board cards), another being data that should only be accessed by a single user (good example is hole cards prior to showdown). It sounds like the data used for the thumbs up/down feature was being sent incorrectly, instead of only a single user having access to the data needed to calculate whether they could give a thumbs up/down, it seems information for each user was available to everyone. Although this data was not used or intended to be used by the real client, a hacker was able to get the data and take advantage.

This raises some serious questions of why it wasn't addressed immediately on server side and even now; it seems they made some client side hack to try and fix it.

Pokerstars, around for over twenty years with a flawless record and still by far the best software. Show me the day where someone is Superusing on PS, that's right, ya cant. GG Poker is the next Full Tilt waiting to happen, I have always said it and always will. wait and see, and when they finally go down..... good ole PS will be there to save the day once more.

Lmao what does hiring 2x more staff achieve when they are all clueless? Just 2x more monkeys doing nothing.

did they ammend the original press release, it seems more had been added to the original blog post, quite unprofessional if so