Superuser Caught on GGPoker - "MoneyTaker69" Thread - Page 5 - Poker News

How do we check players history? Couple of similar suspicious accounts I've seen lately, very similar hand histories to shown in this thread. Final tabling tournaments with 70% vpip in a tournament with absurd hands, now their sharkscope says 0 tournaments played on GG.

"Milk26" was one of the accounts. Do we report to GG via email?

they would't give a slightest **** if you simply report them to security. The only way this guy was caught is because data mining was avaliable for some of his handhistory. There are couple of data mining services, you can try to resolve it yourself.

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12-29-2023 , 08:15 AM

#102

GustavGanz

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2022 Posts: 153

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Originally Posted by EddieKing

Not exactly - there are several attack vectors here to gain hold of the hole cards.
I would not be surprised if this guy read my article before playing with the client.

In my article I wrote that i did not reverse engineered the client and doing so will surely gain more knowledge about the hole cards and other data.

the sad thing is that everyone will go back to playing there like nothing happened.

Eddie out here providing actual information instead of promoting his book

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12-29-2023 , 08:17 AM

#103

Temppu

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 9

The first sentence is a bit arrogant on behalf of GG on the statement, like said. And one worrying thing is that the statement does not say anything about the issue that do all possible other hackers still have access to the games? Only the one person got caught, but what about the other possible ones who did not get caught? If the software let's them join the network with hacked versions and block any updates, what is stopping them?

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12-29-2023 , 08:23 AM

#104

AAJTo

adept

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 1,062

Cant wait for Malmuths NEXT next book on thumbs up and down emojis. He cant tell you anything about it other than it being revolutionary and how he is precisely correct about said subject. The contents of the book are so forbidden that they cant see human eyes or it will ruin everything unless you pay for it a couple months from now.

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12-29-2023 , 08:23 AM

#105

discipulus9

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 367

Amazing. They probably finally realized it after consulting Mason and reading the chapter is his book.

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12-29-2023 , 08:33 AM

#106

DoctorVictim

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 31

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Originally Posted by ppkdmilkyway

Okay thanks mate

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12-29-2023 , 08:35 AM

#107

m00sy

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 467

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Originally Posted by MyrnaFTW

lol gg poker.

good thing for the forums as its still a place to put this out into the poker world when someone doesn't have long reach on twitter

and lol at MM saying he has a method to scrape for this as a way to hawk more books.

It’s all over r/poker.

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12-29-2023 , 08:35 AM

#108

eenvis

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,340

Kinda ironic if you sat too quickly on this guy’s left GG’s algorithm would’ve made sure to give you warnings for bumhunting and possibly end up banning you.

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12-29-2023 , 08:45 AM

#109

threatnasty

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Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,193

In addition to the observations that GG didn’t identify this problem, didn’t do anything when told about it, and was completely late to the party…

what do we make of the $29k figure?

…it seems they are only addressing part of the suspected problem. Wasn’t the mtt win worth $49k? What about all the other cash winnings on the graphs?

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12-29-2023 , 08:56 AM

#110

AAJTo

adept

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 1,062

The biggest poker site which has come as close to legalized theft as you can get with their rake should never have an issue like this. Dont let shills pass this off on anyone other than GGpoker.

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12-29-2023 , 08:59 AM

#111

m00sy

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 467

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Originally Posted by GustavGanz

Eddie out here providing actual information instead of promoting his book

Didn’t books bankroll this site for most of its history?

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12-29-2023 , 09:03 AM

#112

DoyleandIvey

enthusiast

Join Date: May 2023 Posts: 66

They got 29k, if that's the total or if they're going to pay part of what they've already withdrawn... although this situation is very serious, it's something that can happen and DOES happen on any site, and much worse are the situations that nobody catches.

It's happened in banks and crypto currencies exchanges...
Every day there are people being scammed or cheated in institutions that are far more "respectable" than poker sites

Congratulations and thanks to all those who made it possible to identify this situation

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12-29-2023 , 09:06 AM

#113

Fallen Angel

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Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 98

First the hard evidence provided applying bayes theorem through HH and playing style it would give such high confidence of what's going on here. As OP pointed out the closest guess would be hole cards just for nuances presented seems more likely scenario.
Moreover it's so clearly designed and over applied which resemble a clear try to be caught in the most visible fashion, which clearly underline so many other intentions and possibilities/ramifications which imply money is the least thing they were trying to achieve.
I am more than interested to see what GG is going to disclose about their security. Not sure if they will...

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12-29-2023 , 09:08 AM

#114

jayme87

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,496

GG ggpoker.

it was fun for while it lasted,

Get your money off this site

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12-29-2023 , 09:10 AM

#115

jayme87

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,496

can someone explain in laymens terms what they mean by the above statment, i dont get how he could deduce his all in equity without seeing holecards?

lets make this site burn guys.

Last edited by jayme87; 12-29-2023 at 09:19 AM.

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12-29-2023 , 09:11 AM

#116

ppkdmilkyway

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2023 Posts: 15

2 main reasons cheater was caught
1. He played like an absolute idiot, if he was more patient NOBODY would ever find it out
2. HH mining. If it wasn't for mining, there would be NO WAY of actually prooving that he is cheating.

GG did absolutely nothing. There was a twitter post that had Jason Koon tagged and he responded that the statement will be coming soon. I assume Jason brought this thread to GGs attention.

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12-29-2023 , 09:19 AM

#117

AAJTo

adept

Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 1,062

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Originally Posted by ppkdmilkyway

It really looks like the cheater wanted to alert the world that this was going on. The previous super users were basically poker boomers that didnt understand math. Its not 2006 anymore and combined with the name he chose this had to be a big PSA to the poker community that this is rampant on GGpoker.

GGpoker will spend more money shilling social media to put out this fire than it will spending money on more security.

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12-29-2023 , 09:20 AM

#118

Xenoblade

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 4,090

coulda been chip dump before the MTT, with the MTT its just too obvious

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12-29-2023 , 09:24 AM

#119

herbalerv

adept

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 779

GG specifically mention the date 16th December as the date they first acted in that update ,
So they allowed players to play for two weeks on their site despite knowing their security was compromised ?

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12-29-2023 , 09:24 AM

#120

GustavGanz

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2022 Posts: 153

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Originally Posted by m00sy

Didn’t books bankroll this site for most of its history?

I don't know know, but does that justify using a cheating scandal to promote your book?

Stars is the king of poker again

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12-29-2023 , 09:24 AM

#121

jayme87

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,496

yeah its a total joke how they have reacted lol. mutil million dollar site and just says "thanks guys we knew about this" we even confiscated half of the mtt win that you cant track on sharkscope anymore because we like to be transparent.

Sorry guys but some complaints are going to be made here to some overseeing bodies

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12-29-2023 , 09:26 AM

#122

Fallen Angel

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Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 98

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Originally Posted by threatnasty

Smarthand just show a small fraction of the all hands played, furthermore if we can start to make some assumptions, abilities of those kind are not in silly hands which imho imply this crops up intentionally as commented previously which imply u can't track properly how much has been taken previously. The focus now is onwards towards how security is going to prevent and resolve security issues with high degree.

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12-29-2023 , 09:26 AM

#123

jayme87

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,496

so if he couldnt see peoples hole cards, how did he make a client that could deduce his all in equity?

I dont get it....

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12-29-2023 , 09:32 AM

#124

GazzyB123

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5,968

Stars should find a way to accept BTC deposits ASAP. The position of king of the hill is there for the taking once more.

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12-29-2023 , 09:33 AM

#125

ssimplee

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 6

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Originally Posted by jayme87

so if he couldnt see peoples hole cards, how did he make a client that could deduce his all in equity?

I dont get it....

He got to see the all in equity stat before there was all in. So apprently that stat/info data is available in real time somewhere and he found it. So he saw for example he is 90% to win even before cards revealed. Pretty much as good as seeing the cards but easier, dont even need to know the rules lol.

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