and open up their services to countries currently not allowed to play on stars but somehow are all allowed to play GGpoker, which security-wise is the world upside down

How do they calculate traffic numbers? I play tournaments on 888 with over10x the daily total of players listed by highstakesdb?

i cant lie this is a sad time in the poker world, i really dont know what else to say anymore regarding the issue.

We as the people have the power, but unfortunately you need people to side with the "people" and "pros" will continue to play because they profit and fish will continue to deposit because "gambling addiction"

we will all kill poker soon enough, but again who cares, because we wont be here when we die and go into the ground...

I mean realistically poker probably won’t really be hurt by this as a whole

I agree. I've been around poker since 2007 and every few months there is some cheating scandal and then the 'sky is falling' mentality. I don't see this having a significant impact really. Ideally it would push GG and others to invest properly in game security but poor management is an issue at many of these companies compared to when the Scheinbergs were running Pokerstars.

Mike Postle get away unpunihsed after local regulator was involved and tried to judge his accusers in response. That's all you need to know about how the local regulator works, useless pieces of crap.

Is anyone able to get the leaderboard win rates for WSOP (Ontario GG Poker) Omaha?

I have had a few weird things happen to me in the PLO games. A few spots a "good player" donk bet 1 BB on the river in a +50BB pot.

I remember thinking it was a bit odd at the time.

When leaderboard tv grinders bet 1bb instead of check it’s because it scores more points towards leaderboard rather than cheating. Common strat amongst the NLH leaderboard regs too fyi

This is to me also very weird and worrying.

They have closed so many accounts for cheating and bumhunting etc.

If they have some AI or algorithm for flagging bumhunters, surely moneytakers account must have set alarm bells of too with the AI or algorithm. This insanely high winrate must be easier to detect than somebody bumhunting.

Something is incredibily off here

Just an observation, and now that we know that GG inflates their numbers with botnets, the only questions are:

How many bots?
Where are they based?
What are their methods?

Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt, people.

I have no idea why so many countries don't give a gaming license to Pokerstars or 888, but do give one to GG.
Anybody knows what is up with that?

Source?

GG doesn’t negotiate with many local governments to operate in said countries, they simply choose to offer their product in these grey unregulated markets at their (and the consumer’s) risk. Perhaps there are under the table negotiations and deals, but nothing explicit or legal. It is clearly a company with less scruples than Pokerstars (still shady because they do much of the same). You don’t need a local licence to operate in a grey market - their Isle of Man licence is just for show, essentially. Isle of Man govt has no interest in protecting a grey market customer in Mexico or Canada, so these grey market sites can do as they please to these customers.

The only one that gave a license to GG and not PS was Netherlands. All the other countries (such as Israel) where poker is banned, GG chooses to operate there and PS doesn't take the risk. GG operates in these places by using "skins" which are arms-length but clearly just the same company. Everyone else (888, Party, Unibet, PS) all left Israel years and years ago.

GG was operating already in the Netherlands but they were hiding the country of players from there by using other countries so as far as the Dutch regulator was concerned, they didn't have a presence there and got a license. You could see on the GG discord at the time the number of players asking if they got to keep their account and if their flag would changer or not, probably one reason they shut the discord down.

Planning to drastically reduce your volume? Oooooh GG must be shaking with such a strong statement. Once they hear about your "plan" I'm sure they will change.

Ah ok, I thought Norway now also banned pokerstars but not GG. I guess I am mistaken.

I am from the Netherlands, so I spoke from my own experience.

I always did feel weird to me that GGpoker got their license fairly easy and more reputable pokersites like Stars, 888 and Betsson never got them.
I alwats did wonder if some under the table dealing were done with the Dutch Gambling Authority. But I guess it is just failure of Dutch Gambling authority, probably Stars and 888 etc have to pay back copious amounts of money to operate again in Netherlands for illegally offering poker to Dutch players, while GGpoker acts like they never did and somehow gets away hiding it.

I know gambling addiction is real but you're insane if you keep playing on these apps like GGpoker and pokerbros. It's clear there are all kinds of scams and cheats. The sites don't care as long as their rake keeps rolling in.

PokerStars Gears Up for a Major Rewards Program Overhaul in January 2024

Pokerfuse has an article on that.

https://pokerfuse.com/news/poker-roo...gram-overhaul/

Norway doesn't offer licenses to any other company but their government-owned Norsk Tipping AG. This more than likely goes against EU laws and probably why PS was operating there until recently when they decided to leave the market. GG stays as they do in almost every market where there is even a tiny bit of possibilty that one of their licenses is legal.

Norway is not in the EU.

They're a member of the European Economic Area though.

Sorry you are correct.

Correction on the last sentence. It's not sad Pokerstars is dead because of regulations. It's sad the majority of poker players are so completely stupid and morons that they would rather be knowingly cheated then plan on a fair site that is regulated. Which says all one needs to know about what's wrong with the human race and where it's headed in the future.

For all our advances in tech, life and the world over the years the majority of population just remains getting stupider and stupider every year. These are sad and truly pathetic things. Not that Pokerstars is regulated. It's actually great that Pokerstars is regulated and trusted. The stupids of the world just need to find, use common sense and dig their heads outta their asses and smarten up.

Cheers!!!

I think you don't understand what MDAcoaching means, there are countries like Netherlands where the Gov't gave GGpoker a license, and didn't give Stars a license.
Hos is regulation great when your goverment allow illegimate sites and not legimate ones.