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12-29-2023 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SkillKill
Friends, when we talk about the clubGG app, are we talking about the same owners, does anyone have any information?
Miracles happen there, and if someone starts the topic to question the legitimacy of this or similar applications, it usually ends with the platitude "here we go again"...

I know a lot of regs, even of high stakes, and they are ashamed to start a discussion about this even among themselves (honor with some exceptions).
Same company, same developers, same everything.
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12-29-2023 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Vanhaomena
I assume that along with the ridiculous J high calls, he never makes those calls while behind? Otherwise he'd just be a losing fish that occasionally gets bluffed and autocalls everything and wins some of the hands
Look at his win/loss record for your answer.
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12-29-2023 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SelfishGhost
They already published another blog post to hide the scandal lol
Had to publish that all important blog about Atlantic City, in a country where you can't (wink wink) even play on GG Poker from (wink wink). Expect more blogs to continue to push it below the fold.
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12-29-2023 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Helllsreal
You do realize that most recreational players do not read 2+2 and/or other poker forums/news?

Obv the majority is going to continue to play. If u really expected that because of this news, everyone is going to just stop playing on GG then maybe u are the real idiot here?
As rec/hobby player myself yes I know that. They have shown plenty of times for years now they'll keep being idiots. God love them without them poker would truly die. As they're mostly all losing players.

Only cements the fact and Limon's point of the majority being idiots.

Also anyone not an idiot would look into, pay attention and become more knowledgeable on where they're spending their money.

Cheers!!!

Last edited by hardongear; 12-29-2023 at 06:49 PM.
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12-29-2023 , 06:36 PM
I'm guessing this bug has been around since May 2023, but it may have been noticed earlier. In the video, starting from timecode 04:00, you can see that the game client knows that the hand wins 100% of the time. Perhaps after watching this video it became possible to exploit the error, and perhaps earlier.
In any case, I can assume that I played poker with cheaters for at least six months and lost a lot of money in expensive tournaments.
How high is the likelihood of a collective going to court to recover buyins, are there any lawyers here?




Built-in player does not play YouTube videos https://www.youtube.com/embed/SuDPSu...&start=240

Last edited by SPerrera; 12-29-2023 at 06:39 PM. Reason: added a link to the video
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12-29-2023 , 06:37 PM
People should consider that this type of flaws/stuff is not only going on at gg rn.

Not that the following story adds much value to the gg situation but recently I had one of these extremely random / possible super user situations.

spin and go. I mr bu JJ, villain bb unknown (so prob rec as I know a lot of reg accs) writes in chat "cmon 3jcks", then shoves 25bb. I call, he showed AQs. I was already confused abt the msg before calling the shove, thought "that's odd fun/random incident of someone randomly calling out one pair combo from your range, sure can happen, small chance but ofc not impossible at all" , but when the board ran out Jxxxx and I won, I legit felt this is screenshot worthy. Still have the pics. I also checked the hand 5 times to make sure I didn't hallucinate the order of chat and me calling/board runout. He 100% chatted before me calling, replayer proves it.

I paused my session and started virus scan, just in case lol. Probably just one of these super unlikely situations.

But if u legit think abt it, like the mentioned above, odds of:

1) me having jj (bu spin 25 bb Mr range obv is wide), then him randomly writing in chat that I have JJ

2) and that I would make a set "cmon 3 jcks", it's actually very low odds, if u would do the math.

Don't have the time to do it, but it spooked me out enough that I got paranoid abt my system beeing compromised or the acc beeing a superuser that got bored / pissed at knowing that he couldn't fold AQs (would look to suspicious to site security?) and knew how the board would run out (like in this case knowing the equities!).

I never posted this story anywhere, caus it's not so interesting + I still think this was just a super low odds situation, where some rec decided to chat and hit a <0.001% comment. But in hindsight it's prob more likely there was smt fishy with that acc.

Have not seen the acc since then, which is also sus.

Last edited by alberthofmann; 12-29-2023 at 06:48 PM.
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12-29-2023 , 06:50 PM
This conclusion simply proves limon has no clue about online poker, as I said near the start of the thread. Asides from being arrogant, obnoxious and posting useless and rude posts amongst other things.
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12-29-2023 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Save your time and don't respond to posts that will be deleted from this thread anyway.

Because I've been asked: Yes, the user jb` was (temp-)banned by Mason, probably for arguing with him in this thread. Just keep in mind that Mason is the former owner of this website and still has the ability to ban people whenever he sees fit.

To summarize: Don't argue with limon, don't argue with Mason.
Limon is admin? Or friend of mason? Or you mean his posts are so bad they’ll be deleted lol
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12-29-2023 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OMGClayDol
This conclusion simply proves limon has no clue about online poker, as I said near the start of the thread. Asides from being arrogant, obnoxious and posting useless and rude posts amongst other things.
He’s seemingly survived

Not everyone’s life poker goal is to beat nl200
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12-29-2023 , 06:59 PM
sounds like someone needs to grow out of their safe space

cryptic on purpose

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12-29-2023 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
He’s seemingly survived

Not everyone’s life poker goal is to beat nl200
Yeah it’s fine if he doesn’t aim to beat 200nl online (because he’s obv drawing literally dead) but perhaps he shouldn’t comment on threads he has absolutely literal zero (probably negative) knowledge or authority to comment on? Just a thought
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12-29-2023 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by OMGClayDol
Yeah it’s fine if he doesn’t aim to beat 200nl online (because he’s obv drawing literally dead) but perhaps he shouldn’t comment on threads he has absolutely literal zero (probably negative) knowledge or authority to comment on? Just a thought
Oh of course, Albert Einstein would also be drawing dead 200nl

Simply being a genius is not enough, have to also spent ten years in basement lab

But no big deal, he posted a contrarian view while people were waiting for more developments
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12-29-2023 , 07:12 PM
JNandez has a youtube video up, nothing new, but may offer some simplifying explanations for some people:

The fact that they use Adobe Air in the client in 2023 is proof that the security "team" is completely toothless. That platform was last supported in like 2020, and was security updates only for years before that. They should be using either completely native apps or a modern, supported cross platform UI with native underpinnings.

As someone else pointed out, authenticating/verifying the client is absolutely critical, and they didn't even add that when they pushed the fix a couple of weeks ago. "Oh darn, he didn't take the update!" WTF? Another massive failure by the security team. Do they even code, bro? Mandatory update to the new client verification scheme (even if weak, it provides a speed bump), and remove the all-in equity data on the server side. Shut that **** down while you figure out a longer term solution.

Hopefully, one of the renowned security experts they hire will be Eddie the GOAT.
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12-29-2023 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by EddieKing
Not exactly - there are several attack vectors here to gain hold of the hole cards.
I would not be surprised if this guy read my article before playing with the client.

In my article I wrote that i did not reverse engineered the client and doing so will surely gain more knowledge about the hole cards and other data.

the sad thing is that everyone will go back to playing there like nothing happened.
That's what I was thinking, your article cold have given him the idea..
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12-29-2023 , 07:32 PM
I highly recommend dipping your left over pizza crust in a jar of nutella. God damn.
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12-29-2023 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by c double
That's what I was thinking, your article cold have given him the idea..
Don’t you dare talk to Eddie the GOAT like this - Eddie blew the whistle and GG turned a blind eye - let’s not lose sight of the clear truth and who is culpable.

Edit: they left Eddie no choice but to publish the article. And he did so in a discrete and judicious way, just as he proceeded itt.
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12-29-2023 , 07:34 PM
did GG release an official statement about this?
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12-29-2023 , 07:36 PM
GG is clearly in on it that's why they blocked sharkscope.
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12-29-2023 , 07:39 PM
I distinctly remember this line when Jason Koon was signed as GGPoker ambassador in 2021. I don't know, I kinda find it funny...

Passionate About Poker Site Security and Game Integrity
Adding Koon was a strong play by GGPoker, the first poker site in years to give PokerStars some serious competition for traffic. The high stakes crusher brings more star power to the site and, more importantly, an expertise in game integrity being that he's played poker online for years.

GGPoker's staff has spent countless hours behind the scenes ensuring the software is safe and secure and games are legit. Koon is joining the already impressive roster to lend a helping hand from a player's perspective in this area.
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12-29-2023 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
did GG release an official statement about this?
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https://ggpoker.com/blog/news-headli...oker-security/


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Originally Posted by dude45
GG is clearly in on it that's why they blocked sharkscope.
Sharkscope ppl can just opt out
Also they making literal inf, not gonna j2o ppls asses for a few seconds of rake generated
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12-29-2023 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EddieKing
The main problem here is not the hack - he could see the EV and this is enough to know if you win or lose the hand. He did it by examining packets ... I wonder where he got this idea ;-).
Oh, how original, examining packets! Next, you'll tell us he's using a computer to do it! Honestly, anyone mildly tech-savvy knows packet manipulation is as groundbreaking as using Google. It's almost cute how this is being flaunted as some sort of mastermind tactic. The real 'wonder' here is not where he got the idea, but why anyone thinks it's worth mentioning.
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12-29-2023 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MoneyWithdrawler69
Oh, how original, examining packets! Next, you'll tell us he's using a computer to do it! Honestly, anyone mildly tech-savvy knows packet manipulation is as groundbreaking as using Google. It's almost cute how this is being flaunted as some sort of mastermind tactic. The real 'wonder' here is not where he got the idea, but why anyone thinks it's worth mentioning.
how many superusers do you think there are on GG?
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12-29-2023 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MoneyWithdrawler69
Oh, how original, examining packets! Next, you'll tell us he's using a computer to do it! Honestly, anyone mildly tech-savvy knows packet manipulation is as groundbreaking as using Google. It's almost cute how this is being flaunted as some sort of mastermind tactic. The real 'wonder' here is not where he got the idea, but why anyone thinks it's worth mentioning.
Because the guy you are rudely talking to has written a blogpost before it happened explaining this network security problem at GG...?

From now on I recommend the following order or operations for you:

1. Think

2. Post


DO NOT MIX ORDER FOR BEST RESULTS
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12-29-2023 , 07:51 PM
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12-29-2023 , 07:52 PM
wow this is a really messed up case, what a shithole GG is

if the guy just played an untracked game like rush&cash and played a bit "more normal" he would have never gotten caught and printing money year after year
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