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Old 02-02-2014, 02:18 PM   #1
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Steve Wynn joining Adelson against online gaming

http://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/m...g#.Uu6LGX-9KK2

I liked it better when these two were enemies...more big money jumping into the anti-online gaming crusade. Time to boycott the Wynn poker room now too?
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Old 02-02-2014, 02:24 PM   #2
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Two people who probably have no idea what a .gif is, meme, or never visited deadspin are against online gaming.

Are you surprised? They just cannot conceive or reconcile the internet. Don't really blame them, they are just too old to get it.
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Old 02-02-2014, 02:33 PM   #3
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Don't really blame them, they are just too old to get it.
Or maybe they are just too smart, too rich, and too successful. Maybe you just don't get it..................
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Old 02-02-2014, 03:05 PM   #4
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I love it as a live player. I might play more at the Wynn now. Keep the fishes in the casino. Sorry online guys
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Old 02-02-2014, 03:07 PM   #5
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I prefer live to online any day of the week, even if I can play poker in my boxers whilst eating cheerios.
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Old 02-02-2014, 03:53 PM   #6
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I love it as a live player. I might play more at the Wynn now. Keep the fishes in the casino. Sorry online guys
Precisely!

No more internet poker nerds messing up those games at the beautiful Wynn and Venetian rooms! Enjoy your reg infested Aria you dorks!
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Old 02-02-2014, 03:56 PM   #7
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everyone so short-sighted.....
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Old 02-02-2014, 04:11 PM   #8
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I love it as a live player. I might play more at the Wynn now. Keep the fishes in the casino. Sorry online guys
There are tons of people of all skill levels that have gotten into poker in the last 10-15 years because of online poker that would have never set foot in a live card room otherwise. The idea that they are two competing forces has always been stupid.

Online poker has a level of accessibility that can't be achieved in a casino. People can play for pennies and they can play from their own home. It's a lot less intimidating and affordable for new players than a casino. Quite a few people end up playing in casinos after picking the game up online though.
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Old 02-02-2014, 04:32 PM   #9
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There are tons of people of all skill levels that have gotten into poker in the last 10-15 years because of online poker that would have never set foot in a live card room otherwise. The idea that they are two competing forces has always been stupid.

Online poker has a level of accessibility that can't be achieved in a casino. People can play for pennies and they can play from their own home. It's a lot less intimidating and affordable for new players than a casino. Quite a few people end up playing in casinos after picking the game up online though.
This x1000!
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Old 02-02-2014, 04:48 PM   #10
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Re: Steve Wynn joining Adelson against online gaming

Here is the real quote:

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“This is not a good entrepreneurial opportunity,” Wynn, who knows a little bit about entrepreneurship, said. “Where is the business opportunity? The big problem I see is I don’t see the government letting us keep the money.”
Sounds like Wynn just needs to be cut in if he presents a big enough threat to online gaming.

Adelson probably too, but Adelson's appetite is probably far too large for what he'd get, and that's likely why he's hammered such irrational stances publicly for awhile now (what can you really say negative about online poker if you run casinos and try to get smoking bans lifted to build new ones? You just make **** up is what you do).

More of his quotes were about not seeing a clear way for him to ride into this industry and grab market share and profits, than actual concern. He touted online poker far harder when he was a US pioneer (Stars deal) than he is insulting it now with watered down versions of Adelson's bs.
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Old 02-02-2014, 04:54 PM   #11
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Re: Steve Wynn joining Adelson against online gaming

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The big problem I see is I don’t see the government letting us keep the money.
That is the same problem we have.

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the government’s “insatiable appetite for revenue"
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Wynn said he fears lotteries, which already are seeping onto the web and ready to expand, might crush everyone else.

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Old 02-02-2014, 09:18 PM   #12
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Two people who probably have no idea what a .gif is, meme, or never visited deadspin are against online gaming.

Are you surprised? They just cannot conceive or reconcile the internet. Don't really blame them, they are just too old to get it.
But they aren't too old to host day clubs and pool parties with the likes of Avicii and that giant mouse head dj?
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:58 PM   #13
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Re: Steve Wynn joining Adelson against online gaming

Though I hate to hear this, at least Wynn has the balls to admit the main reason behind him opposing is money. Better than Adelson's chicken **** approach
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:58 PM   #14
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dont like this
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:10 PM   #15
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There are tons of people of all skill levels that have gotten into poker in the last 10-15 years because of online poker that would have never set foot in a live card room otherwise. The idea that they are two competing forces has always been stupid.

Online poker has a level of accessibility that can't be achieved in a casino. People can play for pennies and they can play from their own home. It's a lot less intimidating and affordable for new players than a casino. Quite a few people end up playing in casinos after picking the game up online though.
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:17 PM   #16
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But they aren't too old to host day clubs and pool parties with the likes of Avicii and that giant mouse head dj?
LOL if you think they are more likely to know the mouse head dj over gif meme or deadspin
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:35 PM   #17
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Re: Steve Wynn joining Adelson against online gaming

Wynn is probably just mad at PS for everything that went down
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:55 PM   #18
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Re: Steve Wynn joining Adelson against online gaming

He needs the money after buying high priced art. Sir Francis Baconbits
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Old 02-03-2014, 12:21 AM   #19
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Quite a few people end up playing in casinos after picking the game up online though.
Yes, it should be apparent by the moneymaker effect not that it's had to be MM but that someone won the WSOP ME though a $39 satellite on PokerStars
2003 - 839
2004 - 2,576 <- The year after MoneyMaker
2005 -5,619
2006 - 8,773
2007 - 6,358 <- Post-UIGEA
amazing growth, due for the most part, online poker.
know thy customer.
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Old 02-03-2014, 02:03 AM   #20
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Re: Steve Wynn joining Adelson against online gaming

They're too dumb to realize that if pokerstars or any big site was allowed back into US it would increase their wealth.

Most people I've talked to in college always told me they played online before going to casinos and said they probably wouldn't have if it wasn't for online.

Majority were all smart guys that know you can't beat casinos and wouldn't even bother unless they had picked up the thrill of winning some money from bonuses online playing black jack.
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Old 02-03-2014, 02:21 AM   #21
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I still think a lot of people are getting this wrong. It's not that they (wrongly) think online Poker is hurting their own revenue. They don't like Poker at all--live or online--they want the degens to play something where the casino has a bigger edge. Almost all the casino execs only tolerate Poker to try to jam people into the pits and overpriced restaurants/clubs/entertainment venues.
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Old 02-03-2014, 02:41 AM   #22
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hey kiddies. wynn and addelson could care the **** less about poker. online or otherwise.

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Old 02-03-2014, 02:44 AM   #23
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I still think a lot of people are getting this wrong. It's not that they (wrongly) think online Poker is hurting their own revenue. They don't like Poker at all--live or online--they want the degens to play something where the casino has a bigger edge. Almost all the casino execs only tolerate Poker to try to jam people into the pits and overpriced restaurants/clubs/entertainment venues.
Like when online small stake players lose to mid stake players that lose to high stake players that lose to nose bleed high stakes players that lose to Phil Ivey that lose to Casino's Pit Games!
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Old 02-03-2014, 03:21 AM   #24
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Maybe I didn't make my post clear but my point is that most people I know wouldn't have went to a casino if it wasn't for the reason I listed.
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Old 02-03-2014, 04:29 AM   #25
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The fact that Wynn had a deal with Pokerstars in the works probably kills all his credibility.






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Maybe I didn't make my post clear but my point is that most people I know wouldn't have went to a casino if it wasn't for the reason I listed.
I think you're right about what you were saying.
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