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View Poll Results: After reading the article I think the Nevada Gaming Control Board will...
Side with the casino and invalidate the jackpot. 34 33.33%
Side with the players and rule that the jackpot should be paid. 68 66.67%
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Old 01-13-2018, 01:09 PM   #76
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Re: Stations casinos refuses to pay sf bad beat jackpot (poll added)

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These people act like the promotions are free giveaways.
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For tourist who plays in Vegas a few times a year, promotions are pretty much free giveaways.

For the local reg, not so much.

Regs at places like Orleans must die a bit on the inside, when tourist comes in, plays for first time, and hits big jackpot.

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Old 01-13-2018, 08:43 PM   #77
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Why would he turn over his hand? To communicate with the other player not to fold,even though no one folds full houses let alone straight flushes. Guy is a certified imbecile and should not be paid anything. He would probably degen the money one way or another. Soooo unneeded on his part,i'd be mad if I was other player in the hand.
From what I heard he turned his hand over for a high hand bonus running that day. He thought he won $1200 or something like that, he turned his cards over so the other guy wouldn't "waste"any more money on the pot. The BBJ never crossed his mind.


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Old 01-14-2018, 10:07 AM   #78
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Re: Stations casinos refuses to pay sf bad beat jackpot (poll added)

Just mad if you were other player? People have been killed for far less.

Just one of those things that sucks. He put the casino in the position of having to rule against him.
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Old 01-14-2018, 02:52 PM   #79
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Re: Stations casinos refuses to pay sf bad beat jackpot (poll added)

I played California lowball where bad beat hand was a2346. The players would say if they were going uptown or downtown. It might mean that someone throw away a 7 on a2347 to get the 6 or 5.

This would be nearly impossible to throw out a jackpot since they could plausibly say they were going downtown after the game.

I don’t think they automatically kill a jackpot for talking. It would have to be something egregious. The killer here is the video. The manager reviewed it. It was shown at board meeting.

It still is at discretion of casino. They ruled not to award it. Within their rights. Which is why I think the ruling will be in favor of casino.
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I'm not a fan of promotions overall, but in Vegas they are essentially free giveaways, since Encore and most other strip rooms have $5 rake while Orleans has $3 rake plus $2 promo drop. So you're paying the same amount at both, just getting the promos at one place and not the others.
Orleans is the only room in Vegas which does that. Other rooms in Vegas offering promos do $5+$1 or in some cases $5+$2 instead of $5+$0 like Encore, Bellagio, Aria and Caesar’s.
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Orleans is the only room in Vegas which does that. Other rooms in Vegas offering promos do $5+$1 or in some cases $5+$2 instead of $5+$0 like Encore, Bellagio, Aria and Caesar’s.
I think some of the other locals casinos have the same policy, or at least the slightly better $4 rake. But Orleans is the closest, and that's where the guy went to. He was right to think he was getting ripped off and leave.
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I think some of the other locals casinos have the same policy, or at least the slightly better $4 rake. But Orleans is the closest, and that's where the guy went to. He was right to think he was getting ripped off and leave.
He never asked what the rake was and I’m sure he didn’t care. He just wanted to play in a room with bad beats, etc. I’m not even sure he knew what rake was.

Not sure what the locals casinos rake is as rake has been going up around town. Someone mentioned South Point being $5+$1 now which would be higher than it was in August. I never confirmed it myself though. I hope he is wrong.

Most locals casinos also only have 1-2 NL which is smaller than the 1-3 game at Wynn with a high max buy-in. And locals casinos tend to have 2-4 limit, and maybe a 3-6 or 4-8 limit game but nothing higher. Orleans is different from the other rooms, and he actually didn’t know where it was and only went there because a local told him about it.

Also this conversation took place in the old room at Wynn back when the rake was $4 instead of $5. So it’s longer ago than I realized.

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I'm not a fan of promotions overall, but in Vegas they are essentially free giveaways, since Encore and most other strip rooms have $5 rake while Orleans has $3 rake plus $2 promo drop. So you're paying the same amount at both, just getting the promos at one place and not the others.
I think it’s more accurate to say they are like free giveaways at Orleans because of the $3 max rake. None of the other rooms offer that type of deal.

Encore still offers a much better deal than almost any other room in town.
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