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Old 01-30-2019, 07:37 AM   #201
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Re: A STATEMENT FROM ELI ELEZRA

were the Sklanskies and Mason aware of the Abe situation before letting Elezra post the statement?
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Old 01-30-2019, 07:38 AM   #202
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So all the "troll" accounts were actually legit? This thing just keeps unraveling.

Shoutout to that one guy who made a post saying it's just us dumb young people who actually think debts should be paid. It was like Eli had written it himself.

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Jesus thread took off.

I think 2+2 and Mason are going to come off alright at the end of this. At least relatively speaking for sure.
2+2 are fine. They haven't done anything wrong except a bit too much naive faith in Eli's stories.
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Old 01-30-2019, 07:39 AM   #203
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My lawyer advised me not to post the texts so Im not.
But he/she was okay with this? ...
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Eli, you can stop now. I will never ask for a payment.
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Old 01-30-2019, 07:40 AM   #204
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Oh here come the victim bashers for no reason at all. No its obviously not Fn easy to rob a million dollars dude, they were obviously friends for so long, and at the time Eli had a ton of money flashing around and FTP gravy train there aswell, and Abe believed a close friends promises, its not hard really. It happens all the time.
Victim basher?!
And you say its not easy and then explain why it is so easy...
Stating the obvious is also easy, thanks for that. I clearly meant how it can be without consequences.
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Old 01-30-2019, 07:42 AM   #205
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Please remember I did not. out Eli and never looked at tis website.
Im not wanting anyone to feel sorry for me and Im not playing broke. Eli said to many times I have enough money. I have to maintain a lifestyle also I just dont do it with other peoples money. It was over a million at the time
He paid alittle the first 3 months 9 years ago with a discount. I do need the money and had to pay taxes on the loan on top. For his lifestyle has not change. Im not asking for pity. I was in denial for years and realize Im out the money. Its the messages lying and saying my family is making threats on his children and he is going to the FBI to have me arrested is scary. It a out and out lie and for those who know me know that. Its a scare tactic and hechas called me all night saying he is going to the Fbi. I have not slept and my we are scared he is that nutz now.
My lawyer advised me not to post the texts so Im not.
Do not think this will get anyone to come out just the opposite. Im glad he boost about being in the poker room 5 days a week. Good for you Eli. For me it hurt my gamecin Bobby room and not in there for a year. I can" be around him and look him in the eye but he has no trouble
Looking me in the eye or baiting my gf to. Go after him.. Again I know Im out the money. Eli, you can stop now. I will never ask for a payment. You got your wish. Well played Eli you got me.
Abe, two questions

If part in red is something you were willing to accept, what did you hope to gain from getting involved publicly on 2+2 with this ?


Is comment in blue in anyway connected to this mess from a few years back?

https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/newyork/news/press-releases/two-defendants-sentenced-for-participating-in-racketeering-conspiracy-with-russian-american-organized-crime-enterprise-operating-international-sportsbook-that-laundered-more-than-100-million
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Old 01-30-2019, 07:53 AM   #206
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I wonder if durrrr is owed a lot? I remember from those HSP he would lend a 100k to people like it was $10.

Man Eastcoastballbag is gonna be furious when he sees this new development.
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Old 01-30-2019, 08:04 AM   #207
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This is insane and Eli looks more like the devil than a random degenerate gambler now.

So sorry for your losses Abe.
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Old 01-30-2019, 08:11 AM   #208
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Every time Eli speaks he just digs himself a deeper hole. How can anyone trust a word he says ? Feel sorry for the book guys who put all that time and effort in and now its wasted.
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Old 01-30-2019, 08:17 AM   #209
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I wonder if durrrr is owed a lot? I remember from those HSP he would lend a 100k to people like it was $10.

Man Eastcoastballbag is gonna be furious when he sees this new development.
Nah he will be fine Eli said hi to his wife numerous numerous times i think.,
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Old 01-30-2019, 08:45 AM   #210
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Imagine Chino just texted Eli 'WP'
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Old 01-30-2019, 08:58 AM   #211
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Is it literally that easy to scam someone out of ~1MMish and get away with it?!
Mind boggling
What do you imagine the real world is like my friend? Do you think you would Tony soprano someone who did this to you, and that that would work? Amazing how many are here who embarrass themselves with these victim bashing comments. Clearly those of you who do this have never been a situation remotely like this, I have, and I understand the defeated feeling and wanting to quit the whole thing.

For starters you feel dumb about it, every time it's mentioned or crosses your mind. You feel betrayed, used, and like a complete sucker. Then you feel helpless, esp when you realize just how hard it is (or impossible) to use legal action to actually get paid in these types of cases. So given the combination of those things, and the nature of our minds to constantly obsess about getting ****ed over (at least in my experience). I definitely can understand wanting to just be done with a debt, no matter the size, and move on with my life.
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Old 01-30-2019, 09:15 AM   #212
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How does anybody see the Abe statement as "news" or some kind of revelation?? These same 2+2ers read all the other threads about Eli. This wasn't exactly breaking news.

It was obvious to me that he owed Abe a ton of money, privateworld or whatever ghost account he had to use was consistently saying this. The only thing in question was how much 500k, 1Mil+. Now we know the answer to that. All the posters here are acting like "now your caught Eli!"

Also, those posting thinking Eli thought he was going to get rich off this book are crazy. I'm sure it's just a case of Eli having his ego stroked with a book being written about his life. Nothing to do with money I'd imagine.

Now to victim shame, I know he's been threw hell with this. But Abe's writing is god awful, like that of someone who is both from another non-english country who also has never used a computer before.
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Old 01-30-2019, 09:20 AM   #213
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It is so hurtful when a friend you trusted not only betrays that trust then turns on you.
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Old 01-30-2019, 09:39 AM   #214
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Is it literally that easy to scam someone out of ~1MMish and get away with it?!
Mind boggling
Yeah it's really simple. All you have to do is have a successful business so you can afford to play nosebleeds (or climb the stakes to get there) play daily with some of the best players for around a decade, get on T.V. and loan five and six figures and be seen paying it back. It's just a case of playing the long con.
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Old 01-30-2019, 09:42 AM   #215
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What do you imagine the real world is like my friend? Do you think you would Tony soprano someone who did this to you, and that that would work? Amazing how many are here who embarrass themselves with these victim bashing comments. Clearly those of you who do this have never been a situation remotely like this, I have, and I understand the defeated feeling and wanting to quit the whole thing.

For starters you feel dumb about it, every time it's mentioned or crosses your mind. You feel betrayed, used, and like a complete sucker. Then you feel helpless, esp when you realize just how hard it is (or impossible) to use legal action to actually get paid in these types of cases. So given the combination of those things, and the nature of our minds to constantly obsess about getting ****ed over (at least in my experience). I definitely can understand wanting to just be done with a debt, no matter the size, and move on with my life.
Im not trying to bash anyone. And yes it boggles my mind. And yes i've never been in a situation like this remotely close in amount of money. I have learned the hard way giving people loans for in my case substantial money that time and age, however I never felt anything like you described aside from the sucker part. I have learned that it takes a lot more then playing poker with someone for a long time to be a good friend. I think im saying that it boggles my mind that a. someone can basically steal 1MMish without consequences and b. someone is capable of doing this and still keep showing up if nothing happend.

I for sure am not bashing anyone, I can understand Abe in this case if he really thought Eli was his long-time friend. IMO Eli just f***** over his long-time friend because the opportunity was there like a real degen.
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Old 01-30-2019, 09:58 AM   #216
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My question would be what dirt does Eli have on Abe?
Abe outed him and a day later he`s like, "just stop, I will never ask for a payment"... doesnt make any sense at all without further info.
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:09 AM   #217
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Eli does not have anything on me. He would of used it already. I was saying stop the threats against me and my family. It has gone on for years.. I thought this would stop that portion of it. They do not deserve this anymore and has caused me problems . I have no reason to lie the Truth is bad enough
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:17 AM   #218
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Eli does not have anything on me. He would of used it already. I was saying stop the threats against me and my family. It has gone on for years.. I thought this would stop that portion of it. They do not deserve this anymore and has caused me problems . I have no reason to lie the Truth is bad enough
So basically you could`ve just told him the same in private (that he doesnt have to repay you), but since he was calling you a liar publicly, you felt the need to set the record straight about him and came here on 2p2 and outed him. At the same time, you are still aware that you wont get any of the $$$ back, and just want peace for your family etc

Ok, that makes sense (no irony). Thanx for clearing that up.
Good luck to you and your family, maybe you`ll get some of the loan back afterall, but sure doesnt seem so at this point.
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:20 AM   #219
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Also, those posting thinking Eli thought he was going to get rich off this book are crazy. I'm sure it's just a case of Eli having his ego stroked with a book being written about his life. Nothing to do with money I'd imagine.

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I'd imagine you are absolutely right. ego is a strong emotion.



@kilowatt. I think you need to back off your detective work on this with you dissecting / cross referencing etc to catch Eli in lies.

I know that is in your nature and that;s good for a self-regulated poker world (what if you and Mason merged your two sites good for poker or bad for poker?)

Eli obviously has a problem with the truth an owes lots of people lots of money, everyone figured that our pretty quickly as this drama bomb laden story has unfolded.

Should Eli be shamed and shunned by the poker community? For sure. A Cardinal sin in the world, really nothing worse except maybe outright cheating in a game. Their was a reason the Lannisters always paid their debts.

Does this make him a horrible human being? I have no idea, I've never met him, as is the case with 98i% of the people ITT pontificating about him.
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:24 AM   #220
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I wrote a long reply to him yesterday about the threat he text me about having my family arrested for absolute lies. Scare tactic. Obviously he will not post it but he is welcome to do so.
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:25 AM   #221
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Does this make him a horrible human being? I have no idea, I've never met him, as is the case with 98i% of the people ITT pontificating about him.

eli sure seems like a very bad person based on all of the new info. He owes a man close to a million bux. He makes threats against the mans family to keep that man quiet. Sounds like someone that I would want as far away from me as possible
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:26 AM   #222
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A STATEMENT FROM ELI ELEZRA

So apparently those texts or emails or whatever from the other day that Mason confirmed through Eli “never happened”, actually did happen.

Eli, now you have to pay something to CTs and Abe’s family, and then I’ll buy a book.

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Old 01-30-2019, 10:51 AM   #223
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How does anybody see the Abe statement as "news" or some kind of revelation?? These same 2+2ers read all the other threads about Eli. This wasn't exactly breaking news.

It was obvious to me that he owed Abe a ton of money, privateworld or whatever ghost account he had to use was consistently saying this. The only thing in question was how much 500k, 1Mil+. Now we know the answer to that. All the posters here are acting like "now your caught Eli!"

Also, those posting thinking Eli thought he was going to get rich off this book are crazy. I'm sure it's just a case of Eli having his ego stroked with a book being written about his life. Nothing to do with money I'd imagine.

Now to victim shame, I know he's been threw hell with this. But Abe's writing is god awful, like that of someone who is both from another non-english country who also has never used a computer before.
I would strongly consider going back to white-knighting known degen scumbags because high-roading people on their writing abilities isn't a good spot for you.
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:52 AM   #224
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:56 AM   #225
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eli sure seems like a very bad person based on all of the new info. He owes a man close to a million bux. He makes threats against the mans family to keep that man quiet. Sounds like someone that I would want as far away from me as possible
Squid, I guess you never ran across Eli in all your years in Vegas?
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