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01-23-2020 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Kalrex
Just curious if there's a pallet of these books sitting in a warehouse or your garage or something or is it printed to demand?
Up to now, all our books are printed ahead of time and we have not used print on demand. That could change in the future.

Mason
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01-23-2020 , 11:16 AM
Really enjoyed this read, Would recommend to anyone interested in poker.
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01-23-2020 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Boku
Really enjoyed this read, Would recommend to anyone interested in poker.
lolz
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01-25-2020 , 02:57 PM
Wow, Boku writes a concise & positive book review of a 2p2 published book ITT, and then he gets banned. That's rough.
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02-06-2020 , 01:04 PM
This popped up in my Facebook feed...
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02-06-2020 , 01:56 PM
OMW to support JN
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02-06-2020 , 05:56 PM
Eli hosting an $80 donkament at Red Rock? Sounds hilarious.
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02-06-2020 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Wow, Boku writes a concise & positive book review of a 2p2 published book ITT, and then he gets banned. That's rough.
Was he talking about the book or this thread?
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02-07-2020 , 12:41 AM
Lending money was always pretty simple in the $40-80 to $200-400 mixed games... if it was saving a guy you played against daily for years a long walk to their safety deposit box and they verbalized they were paying it back today or tomorrow, no problem. If your box wasn't full of cash, like most everyone else there, the answer was no. Not sure why this concept is difficult to navigate.

Last edited by MixedGames33; 02-07-2020 at 12:42 AM. Reason: typo
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02-25-2020 , 11:08 AM
I have lost a friend over loaning them money. I had been very bitter about it for years as the amount was significant to me, thankfully after 10 years or so that amount is now a drop in the bucket. I do not reccomend lending to people, because people can get into bad situations and they will "have no choice" but default. It just complicates too many things and usually the lender may even be considered the villain. Funny how that works so from my own experiences, do not lend and try not to borrow unless you absolutely can repay back with multiple back ups behind you or kiss that friendship goodbye.
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02-25-2020 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MixedGames33
Lending money was always pretty simple in the $40-80 to $200-400 mixed games... if it was saving a guy you played against daily for years a long walk to their safety deposit box and they verbalized they were paying it back today or tomorrow, no problem. If your box wasn't full of cash, like most everyone else there, the answer was no. Not sure why this concept is difficult to navigate.
Because there are two types of people. People who understand an agreement verbal or written should be binding and people who make excuses and justifications for their own convenience.

The worst type is internally they think they are good people but still do not repay debts. Actions always speak louder than words. Looking around though people who do not make good on their word usually are never successful long term anyways.

Humans are really good at backwards rationalizing anything they want.

I respect Eli for writing the statement but the statement does reveal how he thinks about debts in general and that is likely his problem. But with all that said props to Eli for trying his best to improve as a human being. I hope he makes good with his debts to the best of his ability.

Last edited by F208Frank; 02-25-2020 at 11:16 AM.
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02-25-2020 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by F208Frank
I have lost a friend over loaning them money. I had been very bitter about it for years as the amount was significant to me, thankfully after 10 years or so that amount is now a drop in the bucket. I do not reccomend lending to people, because people can get into bad situations and they will "have no choice" but default. It just complicates too many things and usually the lender may even be considered the villain. Funny how that works so from my own experiences, do not lend and try not to borrow unless you absolutely can repay back with multiple back ups behind you or kiss that friendship goodbye.
The best way to lose a friend is to loan them money.
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02-25-2020 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Toupee Jay
The best way to lose a friend is to loan them money.
or you could just say your friend is more important than money.
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02-25-2020 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by wheelflush
or you could just say your friend is more important than money.
What about betrayal and being taken advantage of? Is that something you should just shake off and say "ohhh welp, frands iz moar importnt thn $$$$"
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02-25-2020 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
What about betrayal and being taken advantage of? Is that something you should just shake off and say "ohhh welp, frands iz moar importnt thn $$$$"
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02-25-2020 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Toupee Jay
The best way to lose a friend is to loan them money.
Saying no can harm relationships too, though.
I mean it wouldn’t be a very good friend in the first place if they straight up told you to **** off after saying no, but they can start to see you as greedy, selfish etc if they know you have the money and can spare it but say no.

It really is a shitty spot to be in no matter what you do.
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02-25-2020 , 02:48 PM
"If you have the money and can spare it..."

Hardly a reason to "lend" it to someone who thinks like that, Bernie.
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02-25-2020 , 03:36 PM
Yeah I’m not saying it’s right, just how some people think in my experience.
I guess it’s not terrible to lose a friend like that anyways.
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03-03-2020 , 03:01 AM
If Eli was not who he was would anyone loan 100K to him? Why would anyone loan that kind of money to someone they meet on a poker table? Was the same person loaning Eli the money expecting the same treatment when they are low and down? When you loan someone that money and when they are not doing well and could not pay everything back in full but did what they could by paying back 60K and continue to grind as its their way of making an extra living wrong? Do banks get all their loans back and if not do they go post on newspaper or forums bad mouthing people? AND DO THIS PEOPLE WHO DON'T RETURN MONEY BACK TO BANKS HAVE BUSYBODIES AND PEOPLE WITH NO LIVES CRITICIZING THEM?????????
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03-03-2020 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NC82
Great statement Eli.



Why? He made an objective mistake by public shaming of Eli. He started something that opens a lot of opportunities for Elis opponents with almost (40k ) nothing to gain for himself


1- ~10 years ago, Cole was a little kid who gave a high stakes gambler 100k. We have no idea what was in it for him, access to games, fish, drugs, girls more money but i assume it wasn't an altruistic deal..

2- He recovered 60k so essentially made a 40k mistake a relative small mistake for a gambler like him.

3- when Eli's PR campaign started he could have used this as leverage to get his 40k back, at least in a private setting.

4- I have no idea what Cole's endgame is but it looks a lot like an emotional outburst/ego thing driven by whatever **** he is in atm. he was having million dollar swings at the time he lost 40k to eli and that is about 10 years ago. Not sure why Eli's integrity as a gambler (known degen with millions in debts that lies about it in public, surprise surprise) suddenly affects Cole so much. Is he broke?

5- Whenever we do business with somebody there is a reasonable chance that the other party can't keep up to his terms of the agreement. Going public after 5 years of silence using ego as motivation is a tricky tactic.Posting private messages "as so called proof" without full disclosure can come back to you. There are plenty of ways to deal with people their gambling debts, but public shaming during book release is not the way to go. It has a lot of consequences for everybody involved, and not just Eli. All by all the book is about Eli, a gambler, not the pope.
Agreed!!!!
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03-03-2020 , 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by idunwanna~~~
Do banks get all their loans back and if not do they go post on newspaper or forums bad mouthing people?
They essentially do, yeah. That's how credit reports work.
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03-03-2020 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by idunwanna~~~
Agreed!!!!
How much Cole got back what stakes he was playing etc are irrelevant

The scumbag in this entire scenario is Elezra.
Human garbage like him love borrowing money , making a ton of excuses not to pay it back and then when they get called out on it act like the lender is the scumbag and they're the victim
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03-04-2020 , 10:46 AM
Don't sweat the small stuff. Mostly everyone now or days has a opinion about **** that don't effect them. They probably got some skeletons in their closet
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03-04-2020 , 12:10 PM
I had a friend--Mad Dog Mike--who would loan anybody money. Up to a max of $20, that is. As long as you paid it back he would continue to loan. Don't repay. You're done.

Mike was in Tahoe with a friend of his who owned several businesses and had money, but he lost what he had gambling. He asked Mike for a loan:

Bob: Mike can you loan me some money?

Mike: Sure. [He reaches into his pocket and gives him a $20 bill]

Bob: Mike, I need a couple thousand.

Mike: Where are you going to get that?

Bob: From you, man, you know I'm good for it.

Mike: Just do the best you can with that $20. But if you lose it the bank is closed.

Mike stuck to his guns, and people all over town owed him $20.
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03-09-2020 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
What about betrayal and being taken advantage of? Is that something you should just shake off and say "ohhh welp, frands iz moar importnt thn $$$$"
I was just about to reply to that guy, but yeah what you said.

The F?

So you would still consider them a quality friend if they betray your trust? At this point you're asking to get burned and deserving of it.

I see what you're trying to say though, but no betrayal of trust, is still betrayal and if you're willing to continually be friends with someone that betrayed you, then alright, lol.

I actually tried, it did not work well for me. That bitterness and resentment and lack of understanding as to how they can do you like that bothered me too much.
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