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Originally Posted by eli elezra
Poker players – including lots of high stakes players – borrow/lend money from each other all the time. They always have and they always will. The deals and arrangements they make in this regard have always been private and I believe they will always remain private. It’s nobody else’s business anyhow.
When a poker player decides to lend another poker player money, they do so with the inherent risk that it might not be paid back. At no time when I borrowed money did I ever make a promise to pay loans back the next day. During the Full Tilt days, money flowed like water and when it came to paying people back it was never an issue.
Making deals with other players should be considered a private matter. Unless it takes years to pay them back. I know you're trying to put some onus on those outing you for damaging your reputation because they aren't keeping this supposed code of ethics by bringing these allegation to the light.
Your sentiments about the risk of not being paid back when lending money is true. However, are you saying that simply to fleece us into believing that you not paying people back is ok, that "they knew the risk?" Or for us feel slightly better about looking the other way? Or to excuse yourself and your lack of follow through? It seems this piece of your settlement... Er, I mean statement, is a logical primer to lead the readers down a mental and logical narrative so that your following statements, excuses, and responsibility dodging seems more plausible. Jenky and weak.
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Originally Posted by eli elezra
For whatever reason, Cole South felt the need to make a public post about a private arrangement, and I already made it clear in my original response that he has a misunderstanding of the facts. He could have contacted me privately or even by private message here on 2+2 if he wanted to. I don’t ignore text messages and haven’t seen him or gotten a message from him in years. I haven’t been hiding anywhere and it’s not hard for anyone who wants to get in touch to find me.
According to him, with some supporting evidence, this is not the case. But even if it was the case, that same code of 'money loaning ethics' also implies some responsibility on your part to be assertive in your communication with the party you owe "nominal" (according to some 2p2 posters) amounts of money to. Not communicating with them and seeking them out is seen as brushing it under the proverbial rug. You're playing stupid.
To help cement my point... Here's and excerpt from my biography. I hope you like it. (Call me Mason.)
"In the summer of 2002, Abortions parents gave him his first chore around the home at the tender age of 8. Trash duty. His parents initially prompted him every time the trash needed to be disposed of to alert him to the task and to help him become observant to his newfound responsibility. As time went on he did it without being prompted. But then the not-so nominal riches of $1.20 a week became to much for him and burned a hole through his wallet and he took his chore for granted. He stopped taking the trash out and conveniently stopped hanging out near the trash receptacle located in the kitchen. Then one day, his sister outed him concerning his trash negligence to a community known as Mom and Dad. Abortion didn't confront the matter. He opted to hide out at his neighborhood friends house hoping the matter would blow over. Upon returning home his parents sat him down and asked him why he had become lazy and wasn't doing his chore.
His reply to them... 'You never asked me to so I didn't think I had to take it out.' He played stupid and blamed his sister for telling on him. He thought they had a coalition of sibling ethics."
-Expert from "Biography of Living Abortion: The Road of $1.50 to NL $5 Legend."
(Call me Mason)
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Originally Posted by eli elezra
If anyone out there still wants to believe in baseless allegations against me, or in general be skeptical regarding whether my LIFE’S STORY is true and what my reputation ought to be, that’s up to you. All I can tell you is that anyone who has ever played with me, whether they’re a pro or a recreational player, and whether it has been in a cash game or tournament table, knows how passionately I love the game.
Honestly I think you would be a decent politician. Reading your entire post seems like you would decent job at damage control, as long as the majority of the time you acted in advance instead of waiting for the fallout, but I'm sure you would have advisers and a PR team to deliberate on what your next move would be.
But here is the thing Eli, the statement you have given the community doesn't address the heart of the matters that have been brought up. You vaguely feign addressing/taking responsibility for said allegations by filling an entire post with unnecessary, watered down information, (who cares about the full tilt days, you don't need to explain to us the risks of lending money, and we obviously know its not necessarily the case that someone is going to be paid back "the next day") and an attempt at written misdirection, with a hint of eliciting some self pity. All is seen as a means to blocker bet against addressing those allegations with a lengthy statement with enough 'this and that' so that onlookers would deem it as sufficient statement. Well I'm jamming on your booty and it seems you have "nominal" equity.
You say the allegations against you are baseless. How so? You either owe so and so money or you don't. That's all the the allegations were, allegations of whether you owed someone money and have not paid them or made attempts to pay them in a timely manner. You didn't really address this, other than a verbal (written) drive by. Then you follow it up with:
"All I can tell you is that anyone who has ever played with me, whether they’re a pro or a recreational player, and whether it has been in a cash game or tournament table, knows how passionately I love the game"
Who cares... More written jiu jitsu. I don't see why this relevant. How much you love the game doesn't matter, unless you consider you love it more than getting your priorities strait, downsizing your life, and paying people back.
Maybe poker shouldn't be your priority right now.