Abe, you said Eli got banned from Caesars for stealing from players? Got any story and more details on that>

I think the 1952 Supreme Court ruling in Awesome vs Lame definitely comes down on the side of posting all the text messages.

Damn. Been on these forums for like ten minutes and they’re already tired of ECB.

Yeah I never thought that they were them, they spoke of them not as them. And they haven’t really been caught in a lie yet.

I mentioned the Lyle to validate cgp even more.

Not sure how Lyle is involved but

Cgp private is Abe gf?

No

This is why Eli Elezra gets away with being a thief. Feel sorry for the unsuspecting people in the future.

One thing is certain from this escapade

Eli certainly regrets starting his original AMA thread

lol internets

Going on this forum was a wrong decision. I should have not allowed myself to be pressured into doing so. I asked please not to bash my family and was told by certain people on here that people would not. I know it was going to turn on me and threatened by Eli that he would make sure it would. And he did. If your wondering why HS or most players do not come out this is why. There is no upside for me here. This is Eli Elezra gets away with stealing from people. Because he can. Next week Eli will say its my sister and so on. He has made 6 threats to my family tonight I assume on burner phones or some of his cronies. He took a incident from the bellagio made up a different story when she was getting a massage and took that and decided to blame her instead of me. He bashes my family members in his stories to the press to scare me off. It is despicable and repulsive. He threatened to keep going if I did not stop.
It does not matter if anyone believes me anymore. I can't fight the fight any longer. Cannot allow my family to be hurt anymore by him. He is nauseating. He will never pay so it is pointless. If someone can tell me how to delete this account please do. Thanks and Good Luck to you all.

Who bashed your family? Wtf are you talking about?

Why didn't you record these calls for evidence for the police?

Honestly the pro move here for Abe and Leesa is to go to Pokernews and ask to give a rebuttal through their medium, either in a one on one interview

As much as we all want the drama here, there is little point in having continued posts on the same few points with Eli choosing to not be here to give his side, while the thread degrades into people speculating about sentence structures and grammar.

Sorry but Ms Abe repeatedly threatens to release texts

Goads Eli with them

Then stalls and stalls

Then plays a victim to this thread and the posters

I feel it’s very likely Eli (who is still a massive tool and totally in the wrong over the debt) that there’s a chance Eli is correct about the threats coming from Ms Abe

Hence any threat of police/etc being in response to her threatening texts

That’s what Ms Abes posts on here have suggested likely to me

But this is pure assumption.... and we know what assuming does???

Why?

I assume that AbeLeesa posted here out of anger at Eli’s lies and to let people know what kind of a person Eli is. There’s no clear path from posting here (or giving another interview) and getting paid, so mission accomplished, and thanks from everybody?

TIL Abe Mosseri's girlfriend is Viffer.

Pretty weak that Abe/Leesa come out here, drop a ton of bombshells, get oberwhelmung support, and then play victim by claiming people are attacking their families (what???)

Regarding Eli, sh-t or get off the pot. Either post your damning proof about him, or stop threatening to do it.

On a side note, I do suggest Mason check with Barry Greenstein to make sure that the testimonial in the book from him is authentic.

According to Elezra, the person behind the 'AbeandLeesa' account is not Mosseri himself, but his girlfriend. Elezra alleges that the incoherent messages and lack of proper structure is not at all how Mosseri writes or speaks, but more the profile of his partner. "I'm willing to bet it’s not Abe. I’m laying ten to one it’s not Abe posting."

Why not just lay 100-1. it's all a freeroll for you anyhow because you do not pay your debts.



Played a few orbits with Eli in a $2500 LHE WSOP event back in 2010 or 2011. He lost a pot or 2 and then was steaming so hard that he decided to 5 bet q7dd from the sb or bb then capped every street and hit a runner flush and started talking **** to some guy who beat him in a pot a hand or 2 before.

I laughed to myself and said there is no way this guy wins in Bobbys Room. Looks like I was correct. Not sure Eli can beat any stakes at any game online or live.

Eli has morals bro, he wont out Abe for his faults!!!! Its nobodies business!
Eli holds respect for a guy outting him for a million dollar debt

This is correct. They decided to speak up on this website and said all they want to say. At least for now. The thread will remain open and people can speculate and offer opinions, but nobody is obligated to post anything.

As Mason said before, we are not in contact with Eli and don't know how he wants to proceed with this thread. Maybe he will post again, maybe not. That's entirely up to him. The book is published. Mason explained why "unpublishing" it is not a reasonable option due to contractual obligations. But if anyone has questions that we can actually answer, we will certainly try.

It does seem very possible to me at least that Cashgame, AbeandLeesa, Privateworld are all the same person posting, most likely Leesa. I have no idea if it's really the case, I don't know any of these people personally.

* the AbeandLeeza account started out so gramatically poor it was as if someone was intentionally posting like that. It was important stuff, yet super poorly worded and written, as if they didn't care at all or barely knew English, which as others have stated is not consistent with Abe. Maybe Leesa was trying to act like she was Abe

* AbeandLeeza gradually got better and better at writing in this thread until the form and wording didn't even match the original AbeandLeesa but more resembled the previous postings of privateworld and cashgameplayer

I've always been a big fan of Privateworlds posts here, weather exagerated sometimes or not it was entertaining and obviously a lot of truth about the high stakes world nobody else posts about .

People speculated it could be x player or y player or maybe a dealer in the big game. Why not one of the regular players wives? Makes sense to me.

My guess would be Abe doesn't have much to do with this thread at all, his wife does it all and he doesn't care much. Probably told Sklansky it was him or both of them combined because she speaks for him and he doesn't mind at all. Probably happy it's all out there now.


Confimed how. Different IP's? Which isn't too hard to manipulate. Or because you told him they weren't your accounts? Obviously easy to say.

Lolol

Regarding the loans between Abe and Eli

* I totally believe Abe that it had nothing to do with poker

* probably Eli came to him explaining his tough times with the businesses, probably gave a story about he needs money to get by until something comes thru, or he can sell whatever then he will be liquid again and pay him back

* Eli may have even offered to pay back more, interest maybe, Making it almost more of an investment them just helping a friend. or a combination of both.

* probably no paperwork, or very little paperwork. Nothing that would do well in court, even if that wrote out a quick contract and signed it, unless that had payment dates and payment amounts Eli could just show up to court and say he can't afford to pay it back yet, he will when he can.


* I think Abe fully expected to be paid back. One Million seems like a ton of money but these are super high stakes and probably thought Eli was worth north of 20 million. Eli had probably dumped 10's of millions in these games from his personal wealth. He had FTP money too. Eli also seems like the bragadocious type to act like he has even more then he really did. I could see why he would loan him the money.

Lyle Berman perhaps?

The posts from AbeandLeesa up through noon today (1/31) are consistent in style and appear to be from Abe. The ones posted in the afternoon today are different in style (try reading them in a stereotypical Russian woman's voice) and I am guessing that Leesa is now posting.

I would bet that neither Abe or his wife Leesa have anything to do with Privateworld et. al.

My thoughts too.

honestly not a lot of people care, and with my original posting I didnt reall ycare wanted to just point thjat out.

I am glad youre here, do wish you could blow some stuff out of the water if youre holding stuff but i understand you have lawyers so, you wil say what you can say.

appreciate you posting in here though