Never seen this one play before this past week. Something I like about her. Just cant quite seem to figure it out

*edit* I posted this before the J4 hand debacle with Garrett. Might as well discuss that here too.

She gave him the ****ing money back? Wtf?!??

Live chat on youtube is going crazy lol

Shes giving an interview on stream now saying she doesnt think she shouldve won and was ok giving the $ back / figured they shouldve splitted if both felt it was a weird hand , she seems completely unaware why the situation was sketchy for garrett at all


"I hate drama and im okay to give $ to stop his tempter tantrum"

Her interview makes it look worse.

She said in her interview that he accused her of cheating and she just offered to give him the $ back to smooth things over and go back to playing

Yeah, unless that's a different person, which seems unlikely given the unique name, then the claim that she just started playing is completely wrong

+1

People who are so quick to say Gmans rep is tarnished and that he is a sore loser (after years of being known as a stand up guy etc) need to look at the bigger picture and appreciate that this guy has been in the public spotlight forever without incident

She admitted that Rip had 50% of her which is why he was pissed when she gave the money back to Garett

She's innocent.

She's just so clueless at poker that she can't articulate herself properly.

https://lastylemagazine.com/the-most...ue/charleslew/

Ok so she might be loaded. Her former or current husband seems pretty big time.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1906274/

Literally every single part of this hand and interaction points towards cheating.

Terrified of calling top pair for half pot at 50/100 but now happy to raise call J*3*o here for at 10x the stakes oook

And when she realises millions of people are going to see this she instantly offers to give the money back, its atleast a little suspicious don't you think

By far the most likely thing is that she had information somehow that she had the best hand, so decided to raise and take it down now, but when she got jammed on greed got the better of her and she called anyway without understanding the implications of the call

There are more facts for cheating than for a fishy play:
- she played poker for more than 7 years.....
- she played very very different from first stream (scared, reserved,... folded JK and AT pre for open raise... and now defeats J4 off...)
- many controversial statements ("thought you had ace high", ....)
- her speech in the hand shows, that shes not a big fan of gman -> after punishing gman with "herocalling", you wont react like her -> you were happy/proud/feels like the king/... -> she reacted, as when this was totally normal and predictable -> everyone would have smashed the winning hand on the table after seeing gmans 8 high...
- why gave back the money when u made the "play" of the year vs the "biggest enemy of hustler casino"...


The system/method can tell, which player has which card-placement, means you can know that you will have the winning hand (from all dealt hands) or you will be better than gman (for example). In this case on that hand, robbi wouldnt have had the winning hand from all players, but will beat gman.

Problem is, when you get dealt K3 off and you know, you will win the hand (from all players), but theres a four-bet in front of you -> you clearly have to fold or you should

Like some people mentioned, to call pre (which was out of line and she didnt ever do in stream before), to call flop (floating?) and to min raise turn, you had to hope, that gman wouldnt raise all in.

I think heres the mistake from her -> she had to fold! but to know, that she has the winning hand and the fact, that its gman + the money she investet, she made the mistake and calls off.

Her reaction, more precisely her NOT reaction after winning that hand, are obvious for knowing the outcome.

Some month ago "Skillsrocks" would have made some bucks (he could see the cards from Barry) but after getting megalomania while the stream, it was obvious for every person, because he exaggerated the situation and the hands he played).

I think the same mistake made robbi with the J4 hand.

Iam sure, her pokerknowledge would have allowed better justifications than hers after the hand and in the interview (which where contrary anyway).

The transmitter for this method could be in her bottle for example...

I mean, the cards where exposed in this moment, when you put them in the field, even when the stream has a delay.

So technically its definetely possible and no witchcraft.

Even when she "only" saw gmans card, i doubt she would like to flip for this amount vs. this exact hand... and the preflopcall (in this case) makes no sense also...

According to her appearance on Joey's utube stream 15 years in bio-tech with some kind of director position plus I think someone mentioned also very rich ex husband or smt like this.

I am very glad the chat warriors here are not judges in real courts.

So far there was no hard evidence that she cheated, yet people write ridiculous stuff here. Also Shaun deeb beeing on Joey's cast didn't help, as he is such a disgrace in the poker world and instantly jumped on the she is guilty train.

She is a fish and made a fish play, that turned out to be good. Also the fact that she literally had j3o the hand before plays a big role imo.

Joey's emphasized how she looked at her cards for 15sek, still claims she Muss read her hand. This could totally be correct. The human brain does some weird things under pressure, the fact she had j3o the hand before makes this even more likely.

She thought she had j3o and wanted to show some ballz against Garrett bei calling him down.

Someone already mentioned this, her interview with Joey is very very very convincing, nothing aus at all.

This situation is extremely bad for the poker world, caus a fish gets screwed over here for nothing.

This sends an extremely bad signal out there.

Some interesting similarities between the HCL J4 hand and this insane TV hand between Kevin Hart and an amateur player.

The amateur runs a ridiculous triple barrel bluff with 62o on QTxAT. Kevin Hart calls down to the river with K3s. On the river, he raises, and then impossibly calls off a 3bet jam with just king high. At the end of the hand, he announces "straight" and is embarrassed to find out that he has K3 and not KJ. Once he realizes K3 is somehow the best hand, he ends up giving the amateur player her money back.

Obviously there is no cheating going on in this hand and the dynamics are way different but there are still some funny parallels. Also just a good example of the kind of non-sensical button clicking and hand-reading mistakes that amateurs can make when they are playing TV poker.

When I first saw the HCL J4 hand, I felt certain that there was some sort of cheating going on. Not so sure anymore. Really unfortunate situation all around.

Interesting you bring up Ivey. Ivey has talked about Bayes’ theorem and it definitely applies here. Each step of the hand requires a deepening violation of probability. Sure, in a nutshell, each odd event has an explanation. But when you understand that each event if occurring as a multiplier of the prior probability, it becomes statistically impossible to have occurred organically.

https://clips.twitch.tv/CoweringTent...wFU8LKPXVqBM-X

Clip from joey talking to her husband, funny he mentions if she did cheat she would have fooled him and her family, studies five days a week until 6 am

(just to raise/call off J4o in an absurd spot)


Also funny phrasing saying she is studying ways to cheat the system



He says that if she is dating "Rip" (other player from the stream) it would be news to him and that he would be a unwilling participant in an open relationship, but he is not there to judge his wife

So many mouth breathers got owned by this. You could feel the collective chat on Joey's stream and all the ones accusing her based on Hendon Mob results just deflate. The amount of "Oh ****" posted was funny.

Not sure if this has already been posted, but Lex O noticed that Robbi's waist was vibrating in an unusual manner throughout the session at: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CjJqzrc...d=NGIzOGRhOTI=

It's a long, long video, but key points where the vibrations appear very obvious are 3:35, and 1:17:17

Her Hendon Mob has been updated. Apparently her first cash was in 2021 and the prior cashes were actually some guy named Robert Lew. Another crazy coincidence, but on it's own not super suspect. I've seen the same situation happen more than once due to similar names. However, I'm not sure how much verification goes into updating Hendon results. As of now it seems to be updated and more "accurate". It will be interesting to see if the real Robert Lew steps up and confirms this.

Yeah I thought that. Her social media presence just took a meteoric rise. I imagine plenty of people would pay $130k for this kind of exposure.

lol wtf

I think Nemo's views are somewhat pertinent because she is someone who played poker casually for a good few years. She has recently got into studying and taking the game more seriously but I remember watching her in some all-female cash game with Ebony, Chrissy another chess stream and she made some really unorthodox calls and plays. I watched one of the coaching sessions she got from Kevin Rabichow and you can see how hard some of these concepts are for even people as smart as her to grasp and how hard it can be for her to articulate her thought process in her hands. All these people judging someone as a moron cause of the way they talk about poker have been in this game far too long. No one can accuse this girl of not being smart, she was the first Canadian woman grandmaster and had a peak FIDE rating of around 2400.

I'm curious why RIP used her zoom login details on joeys stream, and why she says she was "in the car" when Joey called her after speaking to RIP.

The microphone sounded exactly the same quality between RIPs call and hers later on.

Sounds like they were together and lying about it. Seems strange to lie about that.

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