No idea why you think I'm talking about myself, I've never grinded SNE.

These changes were no worries if they paid the rb flat, however a huge chunk of SNE payout was payed at the end and they intervened right at 3/4 of the year, making it impossible for a lot of players to receive the %rb stars was advertising their VIP system with (which was the main reason they spend the last 9 month playing the volume they did). That is at least shady, if not fraud.

1st June and nothing appears to have changed on the UK pokerstars, they have reset the steps back to step 1 as normal.

UK-wise, I got an email from PS yesterday with the wording: "We are excited to announce that later this summer - as early as July - we will be launching Stars Rewards, our new rewards program".

2021 were gonna have negative RB

100% of our profits will be raked and we get stars (treasure) chest run with 0-4% return of our total rake paid

gggg

Pretty sick how Party took most of Stars' 6max MSPLO action already, even though the new rewards program isn't even active yet.

Sorry if this has been asked and answered but I can't read all 13 pages..

1.
Will all the VIP levels be removed? (Bronze/Chrome/Silver/Gold/Platinum/SuperNova)

2.
Is starscoin getting removed all together?

3.
If it isn't, will we still earn the same amount of RB and the chests are just a bonus/something that we can buy, or are chests our rakeback?

Why?!

Here you'll find all answers to your questions:

https://www.pokerstars.dk/en/stars-rewards/

1
all levels will be removed

2
NO

3
rakeback will be a lot less , up to 85% less and will have a lot more variance

Here's what I just found, so basically FUUUCK.



The first 2 are absolute daggers, the last just shows what **** rewards we'll be getting from these chests lmao.

I've been telling myself hopefully RIO Poker saves all of this, but I was just thinking, with the demographic RIO is marketed to, It's just going to be a reg-fest. Think about right now what major losing players know about RIO Poker, none.


How long does Canada have until this is effective because it looks like Denmark has it right now?

For those in the UK - can you tell me if your VPP steps are adding up correctly?

This morning I started afresh with an 800fpp step which requires 250VPPs. Currently showing 32% but Ive actually earned 96VPPS this morning which is 38%, effectively a 15% difference.

Yeah, hope they'll get a decent chunk of SnG action as well after releasing their new structures

what about cash games ? does anybody here noticed a change?

I calculated that the EV of the Platinum chest is 21.52033 USD.
If they use this model on all Stars does this mean that the best you can hope for in rakeback is capped at 21.5 USD per month?
That's nothing.

Party introduced 50nl zoom yesterday and I notice 50nl traffic on stars is down today. 12 4 tablers atm compared to 22 4 tablers last week at similar time.

but you aren't capped to 1 chest/month?

This is Ongame all over again.

there's a new ''available to cashout'' line in the cashier.

from now, you cannot withdraw the money deposited if you didnt rake enough. like the players2players transfer rule.

a really bad thing if you just want to play few games and cashout the money you deposited few hours before.

Pretty sure that change hurts recreational players only

How do they get that one past the gambling commission? Surely if a player wants to take his money out of a site he can take his money out?

This is just the latest in a long line of money-grabs from GreedStars. The new system is crap because:

- they won't say what the average rewards are
- they can change the average rewards any time they want without telling us
- before we got to choose what we buy with our reward credits, now they do
- they will obv use it to push people into other verticals like casino and sportsbook
- the system shows how stupid they think we actually are

Party are clearly making a strong push atm with 40% transparent rakeback (on top of deposit bonus offers etc), aggressive guarantees, software upgrades etc. They're already gaining strong momentum and the sooner we all move over there the better.

Lets say I play today a bit and get 4 chests but don't open them and they upgrade to a silver chest, can I save that silver chest until I have 3 more silver chests and upgrade to higher tier? How does it work?

Is that fact?

Absolutely ******ed idea to make even rakeback random and based on luck or whatever. This is not stopping, they are ****ing us all over in every possible way.
The way this company operates is just disgusting and they deserve to lose their players.

Does anyone have different numbers in their cashier for "balance" and "available to cash out" and would be willing to speculate why there may be a difference in their case?

I'm thinking it might just be something like "Deposit $50 and we'll add $50 free!" so in other words like a deposit bonus but paid up front rather than incrementally - it would be fair for such a player would have different numbers showing until they've played a bit.

They've added wagering requirements to deposits, that's all. I deposited last night and the entire amount is missing from "available to withdraw". They wouldn't specify how much to unlock it.

It's probably to stop people depositing/withdrawing regularly as they jump around sites.