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06-12-2008 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
lebron has better stats. even when kobe was carrying his team he didnt put as good as numbers as lebron.

kobes "clutchness" is overrated imo. if he takes over this series i will agree with u tho.
kobe is a crying bit ch
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06-12-2008 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by xxThe_Lebowskixx
so this guy is legit? when i read this i thought it sounded like BS.

to be more specific, i dont see how 7 years of data is at all useful, nor do i have the first clue what he is talking about when he says he made a program which tells him which players are going to guard each other and why that is important? 9/10 you already know who is going to be guarding eachother throughout the game. i understand if he does not want to give details on how he does what he does, but what he said in the interview about statistic collection and how its used made zero sense to me. that is what felt like BS.

the stuff about analysing future bets was perfectly reasonable as was everything else. the statisical records stuff sounded kind of like a gambler's inside joke.

proving yet again why you are so mind numbingly despicable
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06-12-2008 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by xpjsx
Assuming all Haralabobs claims about his success betting the NBA are true (no reason not to believe...plays 200/400 for fun) he would be worth many millions / 10's of mills to an NBA team. His situation is quite similar to that written about in the book Moneyball where stats analysis is used by the Oakland A's management to be one of the better teams in the MLB with one of the lowest payrolls (this is what the book claims but I don't know much about baseball though).
He will probably never get his chance though due to the ignorance and arrogance of people towards Haralabobs type of analysis. Persistant underperfomance by so many hundred million dollar franchises is baffling when there is such a strong salary cap and draft system. They could probably go a long way to fixing this by hiring Haralabos for a mill or two a year rather than paying the same to some bench warming stiff.

Interview shows how interesting Haralabos can be. PLEASE TRANSFER THIS TO BIG POKER SUNDAYS. That show has gone from brilliant to pathetic almost overnight. Need more about Haralabob and less repetitivness about boring internet poker scandals.
+ infinity.... very cogent points
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06-12-2008 , 10:25 PM
this guy is the ****in man
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06-13-2008 , 12:55 PM
I feel like this thread gets a co-producer credit on that post btw
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06-13-2008 , 02:15 PM
Dids -- thanks for the links. Awesome stuff.
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06-13-2008 , 02:18 PM
If he ever wants a research assistant, I'm up for it.

I should note that I wrote this before I read this:
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As I mentioned, there are a few people who's work and opinion I respect, I have even reached out to a few of them with job offers, but I haven't really found anyone who I'd either be interested in hiring, or who'd be interested in working for me.
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06-14-2008 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by lapoker17
sweet interview but no nba team is hiring him ever.
I'm sensing Haralabob competing w/ Bill Simmons for the first ever "VP of Common Sense" position in the NBA.
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06-14-2008 , 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mrblondetex
I'm sensing Haralabob competing w/ Bill Simmons for the first ever "VP of Common Sense" position in the NBA.
bill simmons is an idiot.
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06-14-2008 , 05:30 AM
The swipe at Doc Rivers was great.
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06-14-2008 , 09:41 AM
i would pay $19.99 a month to read 2p2 if coltranedog made an nvg post everyday.
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06-14-2008 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by coltranedog
Here is a a screen capture of my central server which serves up all my NBA content to any computer on my network - the less time I spend reading dlisted.com and 2+2 the more time I have to watch NBA basketball and display my obvious contempt for my inferiors.

way to squash all those ghey rumors haralabos.

and haralabos... read this carefully. we love you. think you are great. pulling for you bigguy...





but PUT SOME DAMN BASS IN YOUR VOICE. are you going to force us to take up a collection to get you a vocal chord transplant?
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06-14-2008 , 02:36 PM
CFL is HUGE part of his wagering also.
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06-15-2008 , 11:16 AM
If Harablous had a deep voice he'd be above PA in the pantheon. Let's leave him one tiny flaw so we can think he's human and not suspect the truth, that he's the product of an extraterresterial mating of hot grecian blood with cold vulcan logic.
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06-15-2008 , 01:55 PM
Seriously, one of the NBA teams should really consider hiring haralabos.
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06-15-2008 , 07:22 PM
We talked about the article on today's show for about 20 minutes (despite bob telling me he didn't want to talk about it).
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06-15-2008 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultim8Degen
way to squash all those ghey rumors haralabos.

and haralabos... read this carefully. we love you. think you are great. pulling for you bigguy...





but PUT SOME DAMN BASS IN YOUR VOICE. are you going to force us to take up a collection to get you a vocal chord transplant?
+1

everyone on the internet is perfect in every way and sounds like isaac hayes. it's annoying to have to listen to these real life ppl with all their flaws.
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06-15-2008 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lapoker17
sweet interview but no nba team is hiring him ever.
I hear he can hit the 3 ball with great accuracy. So, give him a tryout.

For him to give out all that information, he must be strongly considering quitting sports betting. He can't be that dumb in spite of his enormous ego.
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06-15-2008 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hendersonpokerguy
I hear he can hit the 3 ball with great accuracy. So, give him a tryout.

For him to give out all that information, he must be strongly considering quitting sports betting. He can't be that dumb in spite of his enormous ego.
eh, he gave out practically zero information except for the fact that he is actually making money this way which is amazing, since as he mentioned there are only a handful of guys doing it.
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06-15-2008 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The4thFilm
The swipe at Doc Rivers was great.
Celtics are owning the Lakers after halftime. I would think the 3rd quarter is a good indicator of how a coach adjusts and, Rivers seems to be out coaching Phil
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06-15-2008 , 11:59 PM
He says only a handfull of people make a living betting NBA. When he shows the detail his database goes into it's easy to see why it's so few.
But I think the main reason 'only a handfull' of people can do it is that someone with that level of talent can make a lot more money trading financial/commodities markets so thats what they do instead. Haralabos I'm sure understands this but he's more interested in getting a job in the NBA. I remember reading how Andy Beal told Phil Ivey that there's much more money to be made in finance (Sklansky said it too in a podcast). I have to think that if someone like Ivey had taken that route they would be making many more tens of mills today.
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06-16-2008 , 12:01 AM
I wish ESPN or TNT would hire Haralabos as a pregame/halftime analysts rather than the idiots (Jon Barry, Wilbon, Barkley, Kenny Smith) they got now. He would give a much better analyses and is much more entertaining. I think that type of role is much more in his future than working for an NBA team because he is a great media personality.
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06-16-2008 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by xpjsx
I wish ESPN or TNT would hire Haralabos as a pregame/halftime analysts rather than the idiots (Jon Barry, Wilbon, Barkley, Kenny Smith) they got now. He would give a much better analyses and is much more entertaining. I think that type of role is much more in his future than working for an NBA team because he is a great media personality.
+1

can you imagine how much better harabalos would be than bill walton??

i mean, bill walton can barely keep from drooling, much less give any NBA insight.

i was so jazzed up about the idea that i called up George Bodenheimer, the president of ABC sports, and pitched the idea of haralabos being a halftime analyst.

george was psyched!! he agreed that is long overdue that professional sports acknowledges the gambling aspect of sports entertainment, inserts some solid gambling knowledge, and adds another layer of color to the tapestry (george's words, not mine. i think he has been pitching this stuff for too long)

so i linked him to some of haralobos' BPS podcasts to george and he said that he would listen to them and then get back to me.

george didnt call for a long time. and when he finally did call he really hemmed and hawwed before he just finally came out and said, "we like your idea, but this guy just isnt going to fit into the telecast"

me, "huh?"

george, "the guy is smart, but he is just not going to cut it"

me, "why not?"

george, "uhh... you see..."

me, "what?!?!?!?

george, (exasperated) "fine!... its his damn voice. he needs some damn bass in his voice so that he doesnt sound like he is 8 years old"

me, "oh"

george, "let us know when we can refer to him as haralaBASS"

me, "word"

cliff notes - monkey ass bill walton will still be on ABC until haralabos startgs lifting wieghts or gets on some testosterone
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06-17-2008 , 11:45 AM
more from Bob:

http://sonicscentral.com/apbrmetrics...er=asc&start=0

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Hoopseng is accurate in that I was referring to the post he linked.

I liken his post to saying that he could earn 65% but choose not to, similarly to someone that claims they could cross the street and be handed a million dollars. I find this type of high minded virtue something that I am lacking. I don't think that betting on the the nba is something to be ashamed of nor something that is wrong.

In my opinion, there is no difference between investing in sports betting and investing in the stock market. I do however respect the opinions of those who disagree with me on these points.

Make no mistake if you could truly hit even 58% against a consensus line, you could easily make millions within a few years. This is not conjecture, but it is fact, in addition if you bet within a bankroll, using kelly or some other management technique your risk of ruin would be fairly small.

I'd also like to add that I feel Hoopseng is accurate in that I don't think this board should be cluttered with discussions on sports betting. I'll respond to this post but I respect the integrity of what you people are trying to accomplish here in regards to the study of basketball metrics.

If anyone has any other questions for me i'd be happy to respond to them, either here or privately.

Haralabob
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First off living and dying with every single bet seems a little counter intuitive to what I actually do. I'd say over the course of an NBA regular season I place >800 bets. That being said, if I bet the Lakers -7 in the above game and he hit the meaningless (classless) 3, I'd probably feel pretty good. If I took the Spurs, I'd probably feel pretty bad.
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