Hello,
I think this news are not very surprising.
We all know most of these stables are cheating. What almost every stables do are the following:
-ghosting on final table or in spins (twister, xpresso etc) 50-100x+ prizepools (literally it is the easiest to catch. Start phuking record every final table/ huge multipliers and then analyze what you see on their screen (screensharing skype, teamviewer? instaban). Wonder why I never heard any confiscated founds. I know personally a guy who hit 300k jackpot and was ghosted by 3 ppl. This just put avg joe on such a disadvantage in high prize pools.)
-preflop charts
-sharing hand histories and analyze population tendencies based on those (ohh yeah but mortals cant buy hand histories to make this edge gap smaller as we get insta ban if found out)
This just puts a huge disadvantage on guys like I am and otheres here who play alone.
Saying this that I was involved in a stable but left before my contract was over for shady things.
The problem with this that I was mostly with idiots in a spin stable and those guys couldnt count to 20 by themself, but managed to beat 15-30$ spins for marginal winrate, something they would have never accomplished alone. With charts and rules of thumbs they were semi bots. They just make games harder and also huge amounts of money goes to a third party and not the players themself.
someone said why would a big stable risk cheating with charts and whatever as they only gain small. No they not gain small, at least half of their players would go to the soup without those aids.
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Originally Posted by lolzyGolzy
We also emailed partypoker to comment on this situation , cause it seams weird that they have ambassador that is accused in such big scam, but theres no reply whatsoever.
This rat being an ambassador just shows the state of online poker, with his edge sorting ""speechplay"" as he called, and all the mass last minute regs on guarenteed on party by plenos stable guys- more than what mtt players do to ditch the first couple levels with low hourly. lol Pleno himself said he had business meetings with Alvaro as well, we will never know if he has/had any stake on that business. Pleno also started his poker carrier as a bot hunter (integrity team) on MPN an other sites. lol (you go use your brain and figure what edge it gives you if can access to unlimited hhs)
Put your thin foil hat on baby, but wouldnt be surprised if most of the poker rooms have a guy like that inside. Who can tell little gaps in software (like in spin4play scandal, dont ever tell me someone just found the gap by themselves in stars lobby lol). Stables are millions of dollars businesses, therefore someone selling out inside info on poker rooms can make hundreds k of dollars. most of them just running in the shadows without any consequences if get caught. Even alvaros stable is going still and using his cheat graph to market that cancer to players.
I think in order to make online poker clean we should push for some sort of identification system. For example if you play more than 400 spins a month on 15$+ you should apply for a license. This license would mean you have to do every step that a player who is accused of cheating, IE recording surrounding as well as monitor, showing ID to camera etcetc.
Everyone knows bums who can just sell their ID for poker players for literally changes, especially in poor countries like Russia,Hungary etc. So yes they ban them, the next day they will make another account, possibly tweaking strategy a little bit to make integrity teams problem harder. But with IDing system you cheat and find yourself banned from lets say top 5 pokerrooms.
The thing is I never really heard any big ambassador talk about this at all. We dont know how often those players use any of those options, like making secondary accounts etc.
TLDR:
- Ban all the stables and accept collateral damage (which is like 0.0001% of stables?)
- poker license for players who play medium+ amounts of poker every month
Last edited by TRT Boss; 11-07-2018 at 10:18 AM.