Hey guys, can somebody translate what the hell is going on russian poker forum https://forum.gipsyteam.ru/index.php?viewtopic=139526 ? Is Smartbacking provide their members forbidden pre-flop soft-advisor?

I`m interested in joining their team but want to clarify this situation in the first instance.

Thoughts?

some kind of charthelper. they have one for ps and one for other rooms since ps rules are more strict. this case is just another aids paranoia which is trendy nowadays. like someone heard about some software and thinks it's a complete gto real-time solver. today ps security is good enough at kicking smn's cheating ass.

I heard that members sign contracts that if you reveal any strategy or approach they've you will get sued

Why would anyone join a stable like this anyways -they just abuse breakeven regs with nothing to lose?

Stables are complete aids anyhow. As if poker wasn't getting destroyed enough by regs on their own.

Truth.

Hello everyone.

In recent week or so most discussed topic in Russian poker community is that SmartBacking are using prohibited software during the play on pokerstars(and other sites aswell). We would like to give this situation as much attention as possible so we gonna post our investigations results here. I will try to make long story as short as possible its gonna be tough tho, also most interesting part gonna be in the end , here we go:
It all started with the guy(Gagna90 is the players name) telling hes story how he joined SmartBacking.

"In June I wanted to join this school, i passed all the interviews and was approved. I got access to a group of discord, training materials, and I also was given a program that shows the positive action on the preflop on my first day of joining.

In just a few clicks you can get the result. You choose effective stacks, positions and an action on a preflop and the program shows with what range to push, raise and raise to fold. This is the school's own development."

The software is called SmartCoach and its a tool that contains pokercharts in it. Theres a basic version(it has like couple charts) which can be accesed by anyone and there also is a SmartCoachFull/Pro(which contains ~300charts) and can only be used if you get login/password which is given to stables students. We tryed to launch it together with pokerstars client and it indeed was working.

Theres also a programm called SmartSheet about which SmartBacking gave our community exactly 0 answers and are still ignoring. But lets go step by step.

As you can see "SmartCoach" is listed as allowed on pokerstars website: https://i.gyazo.com/ecf1efb0ebe7922d...b3c906b997.jpg

Our problem with the SmartCoach was: Can pokerstars tell the difference when the user of this software is using a basic charts or he is logged in for an advanced ones becouse both tools had 1 .exe file to our surprise answer was: https://gyazo.com/f8104455b6a3a8b1d71b392aaed64ab3

So as you can see SmartCoach full was indeed prohibited to use during the liveplay but pokerstars couldnt tell if a player is logged in for it , and thought everyone who launched "SmartCoach" is using verified version. Here is the proof that it indeed launched together with pokerstars software: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Td-...Gxj6AYMTA/view (3:25).

Before we start talking about SmartSheet i want everyone know that a SmartBackings person gave us 1 video answer in which he answered 0 questions community asked(he said 0 words about smartsheet) and only talked what he felt comfortable to talk about, he also claimed that the software/charts are used for studying purposes only. Video proof if some of you might understand russian: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPAG9KQFlsk)

Here's programmer proof that SmartSheet exists on stables website: https://gyazo.com/c28cf0109272d3d77b6e32ce2921355c

The Description of SmartSheet and advices how to USE IT DURING THE PLAY:

1) https://gyazo.com/87b4dd3c1e6b7580199b03207d8a7829

2) https://gyazo.com/1d1c11ca4573d3a46fa76fd12d55628c (Pay attention that they advice real bad to use it ingame , while the interview guy was saying other things ay)

3) https://gyazo.com/c6c9e4da415d198b0405efc42b37b063

We were contacted by a SmartBackings student he wanted to stay anonymous so we cant prove hes words but together with SmartBacking lies and so many shady **** around , hes words do sound legit just gonna leave it here:

"When I entered the school I was given a program SmartSheet, , to enter the program had to enter the username and password, it worked step by step:

Step 1 - Position HERO
Step 2 - Actions at the table, open raise, no open raise, reraise, raise after HERO.

Step 3 - the position of the opponent

Step 4- Effective stack 10-15bb, 15-20bb, 20-30bb, etc.

After that, the program showed the chart how to act preflop.

About a month ago SmartSheet moved to the website, as we were told because they improved the program, but now I understand that this was done in order to make it harder for stars to findout about it, because it is unlikely that stars and other rooms see what tabs you have open in the browsers.)

Here is a screenshot of the improved browser version of SmartSheet: https://gyazo.com/b21c3af2376abb1c0cf8a9cc065402d5

For example JeffGross was using prohibited chart(s) on some website on hes stream for quite some time before he got reported to the support: https://pp.userapi.com/c847121/v8471...8-_uvVcxec.jpg so anonymous guy words seem legit about that SmartSheet is now working in websites format and its harder to find out about it for stars security.

Thats about it , we really hope this will get the attention it deserves , the SmartBacking said they have like 1000+ students and imagine if most of them are using something like this no wonder fields are slowly getting tougher/ROIs lower , variance higher. So far we just get ignored real hard by them so we hope posting this on 2+2 will make them respond faster.

I apologise if some of my english is hard to understand , thanks for your time and feel free to ask any questions.
*If i posted this on wrong section , mods please move this to the correct one.

uh ohzzzzz

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...tware-1722337/

I just always assume stables use charts, ghosting, VPN and whatnot until proven innocent. It's not the bots destroying online poker, it's these aids stables. And by that I mean all of them.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...visor-1722002/

Why would a stable exist other than to cheat?

People with money who really just want to help a brotha out?

Here, since you are not good enough to earn it on your own, have this money and we will teach you how to win?

Nah.

Is that software that PokerStars PRO Jeff Gross using on the stream while playing?


How do they allow that sort ot things?

LOL this is wrong

How is that even possible, Jeff Gross PokerStars pro?

We dont have any proofs of what he is using so i wont start any rumours.
How do they allow that sort of things? Thats a question we should be asking pokerstars game integrity team.

I have merged the two threads.

Jeff gross stuff is probably RYE ranges I would guess since he is sponsored by them.

Not sure what are RYE ranges, but some people from gipsyteam forums reported Jeff Gross and I think the punishment was just a warning.

Here is a full clip:
https://clips.twitch.tv/ElatedWanderingOysterShadyLulu

I see thats browser version of Smartspin's software, looks they switched it to browser version because they don't want Pokerstars observing that in processes. He obviously didn't wana smb to see that and closed it pretty fast

Nah its RYE stuff mate

Raise your edge is the training site gross promotes during streams. To poster whob didnt know what it was

A stable exists to profit all parties.

Cheating has bad long term ROI, stables are usually run by people who actually beat the game and understand this.

absurdly dumb

This is bad logic and sounds like the biased opinion of someone who has been involved in stables before.

Or someone who can do basic logic.

A stable is literally supposed to be someone who beats the game and a few others coaching others to do the same. The idea is that you can make more money that way and spend less time playing as the coach.

What is the incentive to cheat? To make a few thousand more dollars per month??? So throw away a career earning 6 figures for 5-10k?

Cheating may happen, but the idea that stables exist solely to cheat is laughable.