I deposited once like 3 years ago and only made withdrawals since. But i play plo8 and FLo8 and plo8 Sngs and low limit NLH SnGs. (as far as bots go much harder to program). Plus i would imagine the site i play on it would be hard to use a bot... also a class c felony if caught.

No, that will never happen. As long as variance exists in poker, there will always be delusional regs/aspiring pros who think they can beat the game. The bots will always be there to take their money once the inevitable heater wears off. Also casual players will always be there, albeit in fewer numbers, just to have some fun.

i know bots in online poker is a concern but based on 2+2 posts seems like every single table in every single site has at least one bot nowadays

I play 25nlz and 50 nlz on stars. I see a population made of rec fish and nit/tag/gto regs. Most times, there are a ton of rec fish...if these are bots moooaaarrr please.

If the nit/tag/gto regs are bots meh...without a range and position advantage I try and avoid them as much as I can anyways, because you know... tiny edges.

Personally I don't think any of them are bots, coz stars, but whatever, they are just names on a pooter screen...they are not real people to me on any level anyway.

also

well played sir.

Shouldn't it be absurdly easy to make a bot? I'm surprised there aren't more.

Hopefully you had enough to buy a Big Mac meal at least. Botting is not a major problem on PS though, so you shouldn't be making excuses for having a double digit BR for 2 years. When you play on a bot site the games are noticeably different even on 2nl, and the games are dead. Only ******s try and battle them for ego. ACR and Party are the worst offenders.

Where is the evidence, OP? You need ssomething to support your claims, don't you know that?

On some networks, this is pretty much the case.

Hold on

Botting much?

Bro if you don't believe in bots or that there are bots at PS i can not help you.

Answer the question with a simple yes or no in the poll

Check this segment

''Poker Bots

Poker bots are computer programs that play poker online. One of the most popular bots is the program Polaris from the University of Alberta in Canada. This bot was able to win the majority of heads-up fixed limit Texas Hold’em cash games against poker professionals. To exclude random effects, the poker pro’s and the computer bot played “duplicate match” games of 500 hands. This means that both the computer player and the pro’s had the same hands when playing against each other.

Even if poker is, in contrast to a game like chess, a game with limited information, the ROI and profits are still strongly determined by the mathematical skills of the players. Heads-Up Fixed Limit Hold’em is definitely one of the variants that can best be “solved” in a mathematical way. On the other hand, with computing power and programming skills permanently improving, it is almost for sure a fact that similar to chess, computer bots will be even able to beat very strong opponents in No Limit Texas Hold’em in the future.

Currently, it must be assumed that poker bots are in use. But these poker bots are rather playing on the lowest limits, because there the level of play of the opponents is bad and the human opponents are therefore easier to be beaten. Also tournament poker players (and in particular Sit and Go Double or Nothing) cannot rule out for sure that all opponents at their tournament table are human. Especially the middle and late phases of these six-and ten-man tournaments are strongly influenced by the mathematical skills of the players. Once you have less than 10 to 15 big blinds, players (or bots!) have to make only one decision: should they fold before the flop or push all-in? This push-or-fold mechanism can be programmed relatively easy. The poker bot must take into account only the chip stacks of the players at the table, the size of the blinds, the position and the two hole cards. With the Independent Chip Model ICM he can convert the chip equities into dollar equities and determine – based on an assumption on the calling and pushing ranges of the opponents, the optimal strategy (push all-in or fold).

In addition to this, a computer bot has no emotions. And as you probably know: tilt and the desire for “revenge” are large leaks of many human players – another advantage for the poker bot.

A poker bot that became known to the public because it got caught was “DeepComputer”, a computer program multitabling a turbo SNG variation at Full Tilt Poker where players started with only 300 chips. Surprisingly, the bot did not get caught because of the insane number of tournaments it played each day. It got caught because its programmers became too greedy and opened a second account with a copy of the bot: they got caught because of multi-accounting.

Poker rooms have no direct financial interest in catching poker bots. Also bots eventually also generate rake. However, the confidence into the poker room disappears if a bot gets caught and this security problem gets known to the public. Therefore, poker rooms are using a set of different mechanisms to detect bots. These mechanisms are not published publicly for obvious reasons. However, some of the protective measures probably include:

Examine whether certain programs are running in the background (e.g. the WinHoldem poker bot framework)
Taking screenshots, a very effective measure also used in video games
Measurement of mouse movements (are they natural?)
Measurement of the reaction time of a player

Another measure that for example Party Poker has implemented is using a pop-up window where the player has to type in a certain sequence of letters within 120 seconds in order not be put on “sit-out” on all of his tables. This poker bot check is probably shown only to multiplayers.

In addition, the poker rooms prohibit the use of certain programs while playing poker, such as programs which make decisions for the human players or which make them suggestions on how to play a hand in real-time. For example, the use of programs that makes push or fold recommendations based on the Independent Chip Model is prohibited.''

Taken from here https://www.tournamentterminator.com...llusion-fraud/

No no that's not how this works. You claim that there are bots right now grinding stars. I'd like to see some evidence from you about that. Innocent until proven guilty. Ever heard of that? You gotta deliver hard evidence or delete this. Simple really.

omg! lol!

What's really simple is to vote yes or no go ahead not difficult

Have a nice life sir. You do you.

This thread is for people that accept the reality as it is.

Keep voting and bring all your hate

move up where there are no bots. free money

that is unproven 'bush did 9/11' type ******ation. It's the new age 'online poker is rigged'

You can play. Don’t expect a fair game though. Bots are part of the problem but it’s ghosting/software cheats that make winning almost impossible for the casual player. It’s an awful situation that recs are treated this way but pros/stables are short sighted so it’s not going to change until the games are completely ruined

For the purpose of your thread/poll, wise and smart mean the same thing

Coach and Omni sound like botters themselves.

/thread

Their only weakness is hungry and sleepy. You have no chance to survive. Make your time. All your base is belong to us.

If you're sitting at a table that is fully bots and they are colluding you will lose.

If you're sitting at a table that is fully bots and you play better you will win.

If you're sitting at a table that has one or two bots and you're a winner, you will win.

If you think you're sitting at a table that is fully bots everyday on pokerstars, you are paranoid.

they did. both.

If you play at IPoker cash out immediately! No matter how good the rake back deal is it is still a scam.

Check this segment from the confirmed in-house bot thread

'' The live support confirms that the player "bot771107" is a bot.

Translation of the red frame on the right:

Player: Is the player "bot771107" a bot?
Laura: Yes (he is); and he is also marked as one (a bot) ''

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-bots-1108249/

Very good read. And this was 2011 FFS!

If you want to be the best you have to play the best.

That's funny cuz I was thinking that Ipoker was known for botting back when I knew a ton about poker ie pre 2011 black friday.

Yeah! But actually no. Yeah though!

Not sure if you're trolling, or really bad at reading.