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03-07-2013 , 08:20 AM
High-Stakes Internet Poker Pro: 'I've Treated Poker Like A Video Game'

The embedded HH-video of losing $543k with flopped top set was actually a little sickening.
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03-07-2013 , 08:31 AM
Bottom 2+GS clearly good enough to shovel in 450bb in a SRP in PLO. No wonder Skjervoy then took like 2 mega from that guy.
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03-07-2013 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ZenFish
The embedded HH-video of losing $543k with flopped top set was actually a little sickening.
Slowroll Karma
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03-07-2013 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by keevo
Slowroll Karma
Pondering run-it-twice more likely. Never seen him slowroll.
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03-07-2013 , 12:40 PM
well who cares

just another has been who ran good for a while and couldnīt get anything going after that

lodden, gavz, aba20, cts, skjervoy, you name it

itīs pretty boring, really.
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03-07-2013 , 12:44 PM
i've read this interview hundred of times before
i call it "gambler's interview" (=wasting of time)
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03-07-2013 , 12:52 PM
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BP: Do you think growing up in Norway helped give you the fearlessness? For example, if you go broke, there’s more of a support system than in the United States?

AT: I never considered it like that, but maybe, unconsciously (about Norway). I think it always has been a culture among Norwegian poker players to try to rise to the top and challenge yourself as much as possible. There’s been quite a bit of crash and burn because of this, but it will also get quite a few people rising up from the lower stakes. It’s partly a Norwegian poker culture thing, disconnected from our support system.
Wtf does this mean?
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03-07-2013 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by a_____PLUS
well who cares

just another has been who ran good for a while and couldnīt get anything going after that

lodden.
Right, why couldn't he beat someone who could see his cards and proceeded to steal his entire roll.
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03-07-2013 , 01:02 PM
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BP: Do you think growing up in Norway helped give you the fearlessness? For example, if you go broke, there’s more of a support system than in the United States?

AT: I never considered it like that, but maybe, unconsciously (about Norway). I think it always has been a culture among Norwegian poker players to try to rise to the top and challenge yourself as much as possible. There’s been quite a bit of crash and burn because of this, but it will also get quite a few people rising up from the lower stakes. It’s partly a Norwegian poker culture thing, disconnected from our support system.
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Wtf does this mean?
BP is referring to the Norwegian welfare system. As in, if you bust, at least you'e in no imminent danger of starving to death. There's a safety net, which perhaps has an impact on how people approach climbing in stakes? Probably not, though.
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03-07-2013 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lit
Right, why couldn't he beat someone who could see his cards and proceeded to steal his entire roll.
hm, have you ever heard of this anti superuser protection program called ... quitting?
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03-07-2013 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by a_____PLUS
well who cares

just another has been who ran good for a while and couldnīt get anything going after that

lodden, gavz, aba20, cts, skjervoy, you name it

itīs pretty boring, really.
a has been? The guy is up 2.5 million on FTP and close to 500K on stars all in PLO and grinds his ass off all the time playing in the toughest games online...
Not quite a "has been" but nice try though....

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03-07-2013 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ZenFish
BP is referring to the Norwegian welfare system. As in, if you bust, at least you'e in no imminent danger of starving to death. There's a safety net, which perhaps has an impact on how people approach climbing in stakes? Probably not, though.
I guess BP is unaware that these support systems exist in the US as well.
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03-07-2013 , 08:47 PM
Seems old
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03-07-2013 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ACEvivKING
Wtf does this mean?
Yeah like others said. You go broke, the system pays all your expenses, including food + spending money for activities etc. How much varies, it will be about the same as a low paying job, something like $2K a month typically
It's WTF exploitable and means you can have an OK living doing nothing, a sloth/bum will have no reason at all to try get a job since they're entitled to this support by law

Doesn't mean much in poker other than it's impossible to go broke IRL in this country, and you'd always have a chance of rebuilding a roll from welfare money
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03-08-2013 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by fanapathy
Yeah like others said. You go broke, the system pays all your expenses, including food + spending money for activities etc. How much varies, it will be about the same as a low paying job, something like $2K a month typically
It's WTF exploitable and means you can have an OK living doing nothing, a sloth/bum will have no reason at all to try get a job since they're entitled to this support by law

Doesn't mean much in poker other than it's impossible to go broke IRL in this country, and you'd always have a chance of rebuilding a roll from welfare money
And i thought our welfare system was BS. Wow.
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03-08-2013 , 02:09 AM
Woah I thought Norway was a relatively small country too how do they sustain something like that
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03-08-2013 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by fanapathy
Yeah like others said. You go broke, the system pays all your expenses, including food + spending money for activities etc. How much varies, it will be about the same as a low paying job, something like $2K a month typically
It's WTF exploitable and means you can have an OK living doing nothing, a sloth/bum will have no reason at all to try get a job since they're entitled to this support by law
Not as nice as it sounds if you get in that situation. Norway is ridiculously expensive, and you'll have to be scrappy to cover living costs. But there's free health care and such, which is also important.

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Doesn't mean much in poker other than it's impossible to go broke IRL in this country, and you'd always have a chance of rebuilding a roll from welfare money
Yup, I don't think it really matters for how a professional player approaches risk.
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03-08-2013 , 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by litlebullet
Woah I thought Norway was a relatively small country too how do they sustain something like that
what does size have to do with this. anyhoo, norway one of the richest countries out there (oil)
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03-08-2013 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by nizzwsop
a has been? The guy is up 2.5 million on FTP and close to 500K on stars all in PLO and grinds his ass off all the time playing in the toughest games online...
Not quite a "has been" but nice try though....
I guess itīs all a question of how you look at it. Your figures may be accurate (at least according to highstakesdb), but they donīt even come close to painting a realistic picture. For one, most of his wins came when he was backed. From what I remember, he did admit to selling huge chunks of his action vs cadillac so he may have done the same while playing 200/400 on stars. . Letīs also not forget he peaked at roundabout $ 6.5 million in August 2011 (FTP + Stars combined), so he dropped about 3.5 million in less than 2 years. Given that he actually never won $6.5 million for himself, the actual winnings have to be way below the $3 million you mentioned.

Used to crush, hasnīt posted big winnings for quite some time, dropped down to low high stakes / mid stakes = my definition of high stakes has-been. Skjervoy fits that profile perfectly (kinda like gavz, who heatered for 2 million and managed to give away a huge chunk of what he kept to keep himself in action).
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03-08-2013 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by moki
I guess BP is unaware that these support systems exist in the US as well.
Except you're probably better off on welfare in some northern europe countries than you'd be working minimum wage in the US.
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03-08-2013 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by a_____PLUS
I guess itīs all a question of how you look at it. Your figures may be accurate (at least according to highstakesdb), but they donīt even come close to painting a realistic picture. For one, most of his wins came when he was backed. From what I remember, he did admit to selling huge chunks of his action vs cadillac so he may have done the same while playing 200/400 on stars. . Letīs also not forget he peaked at roundabout $ 6.5 million in August 2011 (FTP + Stars combined), so he dropped about 3.5 million in less than 2 years. Given that he actually never won $6.5 million for himself, the actual winnings have to be way below the $3 million you mentioned.

Used to crush, hasnīt posted big winnings for quite some time, dropped down to low high stakes / mid stakes = my definition of high stakes has-been. Skjervoy fits that profile perfectly (kinda like gavz, who heatered for 2 million and managed to give away a huge chunk of what he kept to keep himself in action).
You obviously don't know him. What is funny is that every time he was backed to take a shot at 25-50 he failed. Then as soon as he didn't have a backer he immediately went on a 100 buyin upswing taking only a few bullets and didn't look back.

Andreas used to play 2-4nl and 3-6nl only within his nitty bankroll requirements. Then he started getting better at plo by hanging out with better players and working his way up. He is very good hu and shorthanded, which your average nit never figures out.

He also never cashed live before he played with T6 (they never paid all they owed him, but at start he got to play live tourneys) and had some deep runs but not really any live cashes to speak of. He's quite a decent player live too, I think he just doesn't enjoy the grind versus stakes.

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03-08-2013 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by a_____PLUS

Used to crush, hasnīt posted big winnings for quite some time, dropped down to low high stakes / mid stakes = my definition of high stakes has-been. Skjervoy fits that profile perfectly (kinda like gavz, who heatered for 2 million and managed to give away a huge chunk of what he kept to keep himself in action).
Most definitely a high stakes player. He has a $50/100 + $100/200 vid out this week at CardRunners.
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03-08-2013 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chinz
Except you're probably better off on welfare in some northern europe countries than you'd be working minimum wage in the US.
Minimum wage in the USA is $14,500 a year, and there are many places where you can afford a home for under $50k, and a decent one for $100k. Las Vegas is one of them.

In Norway that is just not possible. You will not have property on the dole. You also get free healthcare in the USA if you make minimum wage, they will still treat you and give you the minimum care and a lot of places you won't owe, that is why they charge so much to middle class people who are not insured. Healthcare is better in Norway, but some minimum wage jobs have healthcare benefits as well...that's why they only pay minimum wage probably too because the benefits are so expensive to the employer.

Food prices are much lower in the USA, as are transportation and utilities. Minimum wage is too high in the USA like taxes are too high in Norway.

Most of us Europeans from high tax countries have moved to lower taxed places.
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03-08-2013 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ACEvivKING
And i thought our welfare system was BS. Wow.
Care to explain why wealthy countries that tax their citizens extortionately high rates on everything, shouldn't provide basic welfare for those living in poverty?

Considering how much money is wasted or downright stolen from society ie global recession > commercial bank bailouts with tax payers funds, surely the very least people should demand is adequete funding to care for the elderly, support young families and help people back into meaningful jobs with real prospects?
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03-08-2013 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by moki
I guess BP is unaware that these support systems exist in the US as well.
But nothing even remotely comparable to northern/middle europe.
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