There are filling foods that have low or quite low carbs and that are low or medium protein.

For example vegetable stews or soups that have sweet potato, turnips, parsnips, onions, carrots, tomatoes, and pulses in them, lentils, pearl barley, black beans and butter beans etc.

He is 37 and very unfit, he needs to build slowly towards his targets, not adopt some kind of extreme keto diet that might give him short term gains but that is unsustainable.

Oats/porridge is also very fulling as are bananas. You have to find low or medium calorie foods that are filling.

If this was a 6 week crash diet challenge to lose a lot of weight, then a keto style diet would be a good way of succeeding, although a very unhealthy way, but it isn't, he has 14 months.

Mounjaro/Ozempic/Wegovy or whatever he gets prescribed is going to do that for him anyway.

At least according to the people In know who take Wegovy. They're down to one real meal (obviously still fast food) a day because they're just not hungry. I guess that also counts as intermittent fasting if you have a snack for lunch, regular dinner and then don't eat til next day's lunch?

Has the physics law of conservation of energy been repealed?

Ya hormone replacement therapy is pretty safe, the downside is you are effectively turning your bodies ability to produce test naturally off/lowering it. Basically once you start you're likely going to want to continue doing it for life. Injecting yourself multiple times per week with test is something a lot of people just don't want to do. Even so you'd be shocked at the amount of people that are on hrt/trt, these guys will still claim to be natural even though you are most certainly not natty if you're taking test.

Pretty much most males over 35-40 would benefit from hrt/trt unless they are completely dialed in on diet sleep exercise / have amazing genetics. The caveat would be if you're trying to have kids you should avoid trt until after.

I didn’t say to do anything extreme. My diet plan for him would be low carbs until dinner. Breakfast 3 eggs and 2 piece of bacon. Lunch 2 sausage, and then peanut butter, yogurt and/or cottage cheese until satiated. Dinner meat + veggies and pasta/potato/grain for carbs. A plant based vegan diet is the worst idea I could think of for him to succeed with. My “more extreme” diet would be intermittent fasting so eating an afternoon meal and a dinner.

holy saturated fat batman

I am not advocating a plant based vegan diet. I think he should eat a balanced diet and not go too extreme in any direction.

The fact that he's gone out and bought all those protein powders and supplements on day 2 means that he's either got some bad advice or has over researched/over thought things.

He just needs to get back to average or just above average size first and as he nears that point then start introducing extra protein and supplements.

He's approaching it as if he is already of average weight and fitness, but he is far, far from that.

Yes.

I agree. I just don’t see low carb as extreme. That whey isolate is a bad idea for sure at this stage.

I think he would do much better with almond butter and skipping all of those grains in evening

No Sugar, no grains. Fats are fine.

Most grain substitutes suck, but a good cauliflower mash loaded up with butter and other fixings is quite good.

I agree but he probably needs some time to get there.

Maybe, he probably doesn’t know he can eat certain things like bacon, fatty steaks, load up on butter and so forth which would help transition so he can just go cold turkey on the carbs

I can make a pizza made with pork rind crust loaded with cheese and pepperoni that’s basically out of this world

I could shave 100 pounds off this dude in six months lol

For a million bucks I would even eat that stuff for a year..

(I assume the diarrhea would stop once I'm used to that kind of food)

There are so many viable ways to do this, the important thing is to avoid injury and hire a nutritionist and a trainer to map it out. Perkins js basically paying his friend to get in shape.

Citrus fruits are very filling, particularly grapefruit. I just ate a whole one and felt full for about 3 hours afterwards.

It's about a 100 calories in a large grapefruit.

His wife is going to be a major variable. If he manages to lose a lot of weight and she is still overweight that can lead to problems.

Hiring a nutritionist and a trainer in the general meaning of the words is such a massive punt. It's what Doug Polk did at first and it made him fail his bet.

This bet isn't about good nutrition, a holisitic plan, or general fitness. It's about getting to a specific target bodyfat% within a specific timeframe.

What he should do is hire a reputable natural bodybuilding coach (I mean people like Cliff Wilson, Team 3DMJ, someone around Layne Norton, etc). That's it. That's the most +EV hire. Nothing else is a good idea. The Staples brothers had the right approach to hire a guy into the natural fitness world. Hiring a "nutritionist" or a "trainer" is such a punt.

You need someone to take you from point A to point B in timeframe Z. And that's what bodybuilding coaches do.
/Rant over general choice of words on who to hire

She just can’t be on top anymore

If he’s sitting around focusing on safety and mapping things out he should just start negotiating the buyout price

insane perkins accepted this bet

You pay these people to do this for you, you dumb ****.

Ha ha ha I’m mostly just fooling around. Im from South Philly originally and believe in just getting out there and getting it done. The “safety first!” thing amused me.

There’s not really much to map out though, this isn’t that complex like a D Day invasion.

Stay away from grains and sugar, eat vegetables and meat. But he can have lots of fatty foods, fat doesn’t make you fat. He can have bacon, pork rinds, sausage, heavy cream etc

And then he has to get out and do lots of low impact cardio, walking, swimming etc. And strength training with body weight to start, pushups on knees and wall sits probably

Yea he may have to bring a friend over to help him smash her good

I agree with all of that (maybe skipping the more delicious fatty foods would be a good idea just for his cholesterol) but this isn't a guy who's a self-starter or else Perkins wouldn't have made the bet. A routine and some structure/instructions could let him get started; some people need homework to learn. Swimming is definitely a big one to do if you want to lose weight. I mentioned the safety thing only because I've watched so many corporate people join a softball league or a gym to lose weight, only to tear something immediately and end up bigger. When I'm really training for something, the first thing I do is plot out what I'm gonna do each day and what I'm going to eat, it just helps (for me at least) to get into a rhythm cuz then I can autopilot through a lot of the days.

I wouldn’t be worried about the cholesterol at this point. Just get the weight off first and tastier stuff will help him do it. That might even be better strategy without any money on line. Certainly it is with 1MM imo

It would certainly be dumb to get hurt doing some activity that he shouldn’t be doing. The worst thing that should happen is some form of plantar fasciitis or something on his feet from putting in steps

There’s a great therapy place in Vegas though with a Piezowave machine that just wipes that repetitive injury stuff out in no time though