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Shaun Deeb 100k to 1M 17% body fat bet with Bill Perkins Shaun Deeb 100k to 1M 17% body fat bet with Bill Perkins

03-29-2023 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Defarse
17%

That’s not 17%.
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03-29-2023 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by swd805
What is his target weight to be around 17%? If he loses 8lbs a month on average that's only taking him down to 196 lbs. How tall is he? This wont be easy but should be doable. With HRT its very doable, will he be tested for PEDs?



He could spend $10k+ a month on a personal chef to follow him to events. Easy game.
Trust me, he isn't going to be 17% on a dexa scan at 196 lbs lol. I'm guessing he'll need to get to like 160lbs or so. It's not as easy as just doing the math and thinking he needs to lose 33% of his bodyweight or whatever
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03-29-2023 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
should be the other way around, first few weeks are the hardest because you are building new habits, and you still have cravings for the trash you used to eat, after a while it goes away and you are just cruising, 17% isnt athlete level either, its just being in normal shape
Not in my experience, especially for someone older for whom things aren't "habits" - they are just the way you live your life. It's a lot simpler to change your diet or exercise habits short term, especially when you see immediate tangible results. Once you hit that one month mark there's a lot of psychological negotiation with yourself ("I'm down XX I can take it easy for a bit" or "it's not a big deal if I skip a few days").

Can it be done from a pure practical point, absolutely. Not sure I'm betting on Shaun to accomplish it.
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03-29-2023 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Trust me, he isn't going to be 17% on a dexa scan at 196 lbs lol. I'm guessing he'll need to get to like 160lbs or so. It's not as easy as just doing the math and thinking he needs to lose 33% of his bodyweight or whatever
Really depends on how much juice he uses. Could be 17% at 196 if hes jacked to the tits. Probably needs around 180 if hes "average"
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03-29-2023 , 03:27 PM
180 sounds about right, so its borderline doable. 17% is not as lean as some people think.
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03-29-2023 , 03:46 PM
deeb is gonna go from looking like brian windhorst homeless brother to... i don't know
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03-29-2023 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
should be the other way around, first few weeks are the hardest because you are building new habits, and you still have cravings for the trash you used to eat, after a while it goes away and you are just cruising, 17% isnt athlete level either, its just being in normal shape
Nah first few weeks are the easiest.
Maybe after 6 months or so it gets easy. But it's way easier to eat good for a few weeks than to actually change your lifestyle.
This is why most people who lose weight gain it back and often more.
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03-29-2023 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Nah first few weeks are the easiest.
Maybe after 6 months or so it gets easy. But it's way easier to eat good for a few weeks than to actually change your lifestyle.
This is why most people who lose weight gain it back and often more.
I've done a get fit, lose weight, build muscle challenge for myself 6 times and just started one again about a week ago.

I agree with Xenoblade that the first few weeks are the hardest. This is because you have to go through a lot of pain both physically and mentally
and your brain keeps telling you that you can't do it, it's impossible, so what's the point. What often happens is that you do give up 3, 4, 5, 6 times in the first
3 to 4 weeks, but then hopefully at some point during this phase your brain says "no, I will not give up, I will do whatever it takes."

I am two from five in my ultimate fitness drives, so hoping to make it 3 from 6.

One of my failures was actually prep for a WSOP group of comps where I felt I wouldn't play my best unless I was super fit, but I was too weak mentally
on that occasion, gave up after 6 weeks of diet and fitness discipline and ended up not even going to the WSOP.
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03-29-2023 , 06:54 PM
Lol at the person who thinks he has to stop playing poker to get in shape. Amazing the excuses people will make for being out of shape.
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03-29-2023 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Carnivore
Lol at the person who thinks he has to stop playing poker to get in shape. Amazing the excuses people will make for being out of shape.
Agreed, and there's so much time when you're not in a hand that it's very easy to walk around some of the time in between hands, you can even do it such a way to keep half an eye on the action, plus you can use it to walk around and look at other stacks and players which can help a little if you go deeper in the tournament. I'd recommend walking around anyway as it's not good being stationary for such long periods whether on a health drive or not.

My main tip for quicker progress is in addition to the regular and planned exercise, to also do lots of bits and pieces of other exercise as they all add up.
An example is if you're at the poker table or on the computer at home, waggle your calf and thigh muscles 50 times now and again, contract your abs in and out 20 times.
If you're on an elevator do the ab contractions. If you're walking from A to B, deliberately go the slightly longer or more difficult way, or go up, down and then up the steps that
are on the route, instead of just the standard up. These extra things when done consistently every day will make a huge difference when multiplied over a number of weeks and months.
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03-29-2023 , 11:57 PM
Walking around between hands has nothing to do with it. Play poker 40-50 hours a week just like anybody else with a job. There's still plenty of time to work out. There are people with every type of job out there who keep themselves in excellent shape. A high level of fitness really doesn't require more than 10 hours a week of commitment. Even 5 hours a week can accomplish incredible things.

If you're post was purely trolling it's pretty good though.
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03-29-2023 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Carnivore
Lol at the person who thinks he has to stop playing poker to get in shape. Amazing the excuses people will make for being out of shape.
Don't know who said that, but I think stop playing poker is reasonable or at least only play when you feel like it.

It must be brutal to be in a heavy caloric deficit and focus at the tables. Maybe live its easier cause it's just 1 table and mostly donks where you make auto-decisions, but there's no way he doesn't lose some of his edge.

No way it's ev+ for him to play a reggy 25k or 50k before he gets to a point where he feels good. Not saying it was ev+ before, just for sure it won't be hungry and tired..
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03-30-2023 , 12:03 AM
You think he's getting an edge by living a terrible lifestyle? If anything this will only help his game. It's not like he's cutting for a bodybuilding competition or something.
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03-30-2023 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by swd805
That’s not 17%.
More like 13-14
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03-30-2023 , 12:22 AM
Someone obviously doesn’t need to quit poker to get in shape. But it certainly takes more dedication to do so. And for obvious reasons he doesn’t strike me as someone who would be dedicated to fitness.

Another person mentioned that the money probably doesn’t mean that much to him. He obviously does quite well but I’m not sure his EV is 1M per year.

Personally I would love to be paid 1M to get into the best shape of my life as opposed to sitting around being a leather azz. But I’m for sure wired differently than him.
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03-30-2023 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Carnivore
You think he's getting an edge by living a terrible lifestyle? If anything this will only help his game. It's not like he's cutting for a bodybuilding competition or something.
Of course he doesn't gain edge by being a fat ****, but being hungry, tired and not having his favorite foods it's much worse. You think that brain won't be thinking of chicken tendies and pizza 90% of the time he is at the table? Think again....
This can only help his game after the bet or like a couple of weeks at the middle after he lost tons at the beginning and whoever is training him lets him try to put a bit of mucle on.
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03-30-2023 , 01:17 AM
For all the people who says he has to quit poker, he could just stand up alternate doing 10 squats and 10 pushups in between hands and hit 17% in less than a year if he was eating properly.
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03-30-2023 , 01:27 AM
WSOP time definitely going to be hardest time for him and when he most likely gives up. He plays a VERY heavy schedule and always goes for POY. It’s very easy to do these bets when you can make it your sole priority but in general people give up when it starts effecting something they value greatly.
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03-30-2023 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Frenbar
For all the people who says he has to quit poker, he could just stand up alternate doing 10 squats and 10 pushups in between hands and hit 17% in less than a year if he was eating properly.
Lol I hope this is a troll but no one is going to do that chit. I’m very much into fitness but would never dream of doing this

When I’m playing poker, I’m just playing poker
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03-30-2023 , 01:47 AM
why would he waste time going for WSOP POY when the weight loss bet is 100% a higher ev proposition?

trying to do both simultaneously would be pretty degenerate but still possible.
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03-30-2023 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by catangod
why would he waste time going for WSOP POY when the weight loss bet is 100% a higher ev proposition?

trying to do both simultaneously would be pretty degenerate but still possible.
When u have all the money u need u value prestige more. He’s gone for it every year. Always considered himself a grinder. Doubt he’ll suddenly change his mindset but who knows
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03-30-2023 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenoblade
then again, deeb has 14 months AND will likely start HRT, it should be a walk in the park
HRT?
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03-30-2023 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Carnivore
Lol at the person who thinks he has to stop playing poker to get in shape. Amazing the excuses people will make for being out of shape.
We learned what crap excuses were when most people got even fatter during covid.
Eating at home where you could cook whatever you wanted,had extra time (gyms were closed in many places but walking is free and easy) and people went the other way instead.
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03-30-2023 , 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Carnivore
Walking around between hands has nothing to do with it. Play poker 40-50 hours a week just like anybody else with a job. There's still plenty of time to work out. There are people with every type of job out there who keep themselves in excellent shape. A high level of fitness really doesn't require more than 10 hours a week of commitment. Even 5 hours a week can accomplish incredible things.

If you're post was purely trolling it's pretty good though.
It wasn't a troll at all. They are all methods that burn an extra 1, 2, 5, 10 calories here and there and some of them help increase muscle mass too and therefore speed up the metabolism.

My successful fitness drives have been done using these methods.
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03-30-2023 , 04:58 AM
I mean the easiest thing to do in this spot is treadmill whilst grinding poker, fish, vegetables, clenbuterol, testosterone E, and probably some stanazol.

You can even whack in there some anavar every other day to really get the gears moving.

Hell I see a spot where he can get down to like 10% body fat.

Good luck Deeb!
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