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Shaun Deeb 100k to 1M 17% body fat bet with Bill Perkins Shaun Deeb 100k to 1M 17% body fat bet with Bill Perkins

06-06-2023 , 09:02 PM
In the rules of the bet, can Deeb simple get his jaw wired shut ?
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06-06-2023 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
We call that skipping a meal and it reduces caloric intake. Thats about it
Saying that the benefits of fasting only comes from fewer calories and is no better than eating smaller meals is just objectively wrong.

Putting aside the massive amount of research on the subject that you're ignoring, it's no coincidence that a majority of the Earth's population today descended from peoples of religious groups that incorporated fasting as a yearly tradition. Those people didn't necessarily know why they were doing it, but they're the ones who survived and reproduced the best, which is strong evidence in itself that fasting is good for you in ways that aren't fully understood.
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06-07-2023 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Wumpy
Saying that the benefits of fasting only comes from fewer calories and is no better than eating smaller meals is just objectively wrong.

Putting aside the massive amount of research on the subject that you're ignoring, it's no coincidence that a majority of the Earth's population today descended from peoples of religious groups that incorporated fasting as a yearly tradition. Those people didn't necessarily know why they were doing it, but they're the ones who survived and reproduced the best, which is strong evidence in itself that fasting is good for you in ways that aren't fully understood.
This is hilarious. I hope you’re trolling.
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06-07-2023 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Wumpy
Saying that the benefits of fasting only comes from fewer calories and is no better than eating smaller meals is just objectively wrong.

Putting aside the massive amount of research on the subject that you're ignoring, it's no coincidence that a majority of the Earth's population today descended from peoples of religious groups that incorporated fasting as a yearly tradition. Those people didn't necessarily know why they were doing it, but they're the ones who survived and reproduced the best, which is strong evidence in itself that fasting is good for you in ways that aren't fully understood.
Turns out weekenders on coke binges have held the secret to long healthy lives with much reproducing
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06-07-2023 , 03:13 AM
Why are you guys ribbing on fruit??? Fruit juice is healthy, soda is not, and Big Shaun has made the switch. Dude is on the road to victory, you wait and see.
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06-07-2023 , 04:56 AM
fruit juice is full of sugar.
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06-07-2023 , 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjet
fruit juice is full of sugar.
Fruit juice is healthy. Ask the USDA.
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06-07-2023 , 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
Fruit juice is healthy. Ask the USDA.
Yet its still full of sugar which is the last thing you want to have when you are trying to lose weight.
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06-07-2023 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjet
Yet its still full of sugar which is the last thing you want to have when you are trying to lose weight.

Fruit juice is unhealthy. Fruits are extremely healthy and satiating, despite having the same sugar content. Fiber makes all the difference, doesnt spike insulin, makes you feel full, improves ur gut bacteria which helps with cravings.

Sugar is only bad when its not from a whole food source.
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06-07-2023 , 09:12 AM
This is not about healthy, its about trying to lose weight and pumping yourself full of sugar makes it much harder.
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06-07-2023 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by coordi
Turns out weekenders on coke binges have held the secret to long healthy lives with much reproducing
Good to see I’ve induced you to straight up deny basic principles of natural selection in order to cling to your baseless anti-science opinion

Last edited by Wumpy; 06-07-2023 at 08:08 PM.
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06-07-2023 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DiamondsOnMyNeck
This is hilarious. I hope you’re trolling.
You should try to find better counterarguments than passive aggressive gaslighting. It’s pretty childish. If it’s so obvious that I’m wrong then it should be easy for you to explain why.

If you want to read an entire book on why my logic is sound then I’d recommend ‘Antifragile’ by Nassim Taleb. That’s actually where I learned about this. He talks about the benefits of fasting as well as the logic of following traditions that likely bestowed evolutionary benefits. Every passage in the book is thoroughly cited and his books have all been well received by the scientific community.

Last edited by Wumpy; 06-07-2023 at 08:05 PM.
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06-07-2023 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Wumpy
Saying that the benefits of fasting only comes from fewer calories and is no better than eating smaller meals is just objectively wrong.

Putting aside the massive amount of research on the subject that you're ignoring, it's no coincidence that a majority of the Earth's population today descended from peoples of religious groups that incorporated fasting as a yearly tradition. Those people didn't necessarily know why they were doing it, but they're the ones who survived and reproduced the best, which is strong evidence in itself that fasting is good for you in ways that aren't fully understood.
Things which are evolutionarily preferrable to a human are bad for winning this bet.
A high caloric intake is fantastic for evolutionary success but a snap loss in this bet.
This bet is literally won by doing what is evolutionarily detrimental for a human.
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06-07-2023 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Wumpy
Good to see I’ve induced you to straight up deny basic principles of natural selection in order to cling to your baseless anti-science opinion
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Intermittent fasting works by prolonging the period when your body has burned through the calories consumed during your last meal and begins burning fat.
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But perhaps it isn’t so much the fasting that produces health benefits, per se, as the resulting overall reduction in calorie intake
I'm sure your source that talks about his theories and pseudoscience is more credible than... John Hopkins and the National Library of Medicine.
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06-08-2023 , 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
Fruit juice is healthy. Ask the USDA.
Who cares if it's healthful or not. There are many oils which are objectively more healthful than fruit juice, but no one would recommend drinking glasses of oil for someone trying to lose lots of weight.
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06-08-2023 , 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by coordi
I'm sure your source that talks about his theories and pseudoscience is more credible than... John Hopkins and the National Library of Medicine.
If appeal to authority rocks your boat then in 2016 some Japanese guy was awarded a Nobel Prize in medicine for research on autophagy, which is triggered by fasting. As for time-restricted eating itself, it works mainly because you don't get insulin spikes every few hours. It is also evolutinarily congruent since cavemen probably didn't have access to Walmart, or fridges.

John Hopkins you say? Surely, a very trustworthy institution:

"More than 780 people filed a $1 billion lawsuit Wednesday against Johns Hopkins University over experiments conducted in the 1940s that deliberately infected over a thousand Guatemalans with syphilis and other STDS without their knowledge or consent."

"The Johns Hopkins University Medical Center, in Baltimore, Maryland, is facing fresh criticism over its research methods and ethics—this time in relation to a study of different ways of getting rid of lead paint in homes, during which children were knowingly exposed to high levels of lead.

The centre temporarily lost its licence for research on humans recently after a previously healthy woman died in an asthma study"
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06-08-2023 , 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
Fruit juice is healthy. Ask the USDA.
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Originally Posted by Roger Ramjet
Yet its still full of sugar which is the last thing you want to have when you are trying to lose weight.
lol pretty sure he's trolling with the "Ask the USDA". I mean, who would trust a deep state agency?
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06-08-2023 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Wumpy
You should try to find better counterarguments than passive aggressive gaslighting. It’s pretty childish. If it’s so obvious that I’m wrong then it should be easy for you to explain why.

If you want to read an entire book on why my logic is sound then I’d recommend ‘Antifragile’ by Nassim Taleb. That’s actually where I learned about this. He talks about the benefits of fasting as well as the logic of following traditions that likely bestowed evolutionary benefits. Every passage in the book is thoroughly cited and his books have all been well received by the scientific community.
You would have had to make a valid point in order for there to be any counterarguments. I know who Nassim Taleb is and he's a statistician not a medical authority. Anyways, I never argued that fasting doesn't have health benefits. I just think it's laughable to assert that the main reason that abrahamic religions are the most prominent religions in today's age is because they include minimal amounts of fasting in their cultures. If you want to make that claim, the burden of proof is on you. Regardless, I don't give a **** either way.
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06-08-2023 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by philhell24
If appeal to authority rocks your boat then in 2016 some Japanese guy was awarded a Nobel Prize in medicine for research on autophagy, which is triggered by fasting. As for time-restricted eating itself, it works mainly because you don't get insulin spikes every few hours. It is also evolutinarily congruent since cavemen probably didn't have access to Walmart, or fridges.

John Hopkins you say? Surely, a very trustworthy institution:

"More than 780 people filed a $1 billion lawsuit Wednesday against Johns Hopkins University over experiments conducted in the 1940s that deliberately infected over a thousand Guatemalans with syphilis and other STDS without their knowledge or consent."

"The Johns Hopkins University Medical Center, in Baltimore, Maryland, is facing fresh criticism over its research methods and ethics—this time in relation to a study of different ways of getting rid of lead paint in homes, during which children were knowingly exposed to high levels of lead.

The centre temporarily lost its licence for research on humans recently after a previously healthy woman died in an asthma study"
Every massive company has controversy's. What you mentioned is a big fat nothing burger.

But sure, give credibility to the unaccredited coot because you want to believe that not eating is doing something magical beyond reducing caloric intake

edit: I just re-read your first line and you agree with me. Cool

Last edited by coordi; 06-08-2023 at 11:28 AM.
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06-08-2023 , 05:31 PM
Any updates from Deeb?

Weigh ins or follow up Dexa scans etc?
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06-09-2023 , 01:03 AM


Says at 7:04 that he's "down over 30 pounds" as of May 29.
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06-09-2023 , 09:56 AM
Interview with Pokernews yesterday Shaun said he hasn't done any workouts since arriving in Vegas for WSOP. Wow.
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06-09-2023 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Defarse
Interview with Pokernews yesterday Shaun said he hasn't done any workouts since arriving in Vegas for WSOP. Wow.



You don't need to workout to lose weight
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06-09-2023 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by numberonedonk
You don't need to workout to lose weight
It would help
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06-10-2023 , 01:48 AM
Im not sure if somebody already posted this but Deeb created a YouTube channel to vlog his progress on the challenge. The youtube channel is called "MillionDollarDeeb".

Link: https://www.youtube.com/@MillionDollarDeeb
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