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Old 12-15-2010, 10:52 PM   #1
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Shady FTP screen name changes

I was asked by several posters and a mod to make this post in NVG. The original thread from the internet poker forum is here: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...le-sng-926558/

I was playing a HU SNG on 11/24 and mid-game my opponents SN changed from kendog_819 to -epic fa1lure-. Eventually this player posted in the thread confirming it and acted like he is a victim and it was perfectly legitimate for his name to be changed.

A FTP rep then posted in the thread informing us that they were aware of the SN change, that it is only allowed for a small number of valid reasons, and the only mistake was that they accidentally changed his SN mid-game. The response led us all to believe that this is only done to protect players in rare circumstances.

Many continued to ask questions and speculate but FTP would not elaborate reasons on changing screen names, since many people would then contact them asking for their name to also be changed for those reasons.

Another 2p2 poster then came forward with a screen shot he captured from a thread kendog_819 made days before his name was changed mid-game vs me. This thread lasted 15 minutes and then was deleted.

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With everything that's going on in this thread, I think it might be an idea to post this. This was originally posted on 2p2 on Nov. 8th, and quickly got deleted.



Is this something that FTP does for all their Black Card members?

It goes without saying that this is extremely troubling, especially for HU players.
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Old 12-15-2010, 10:54 PM   #2
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Re: Shady FTP screen name changes

Can't wait for the FTP response on this one.

Unless they are still going to "protect the integrity" of the games.
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Old 12-15-2010, 10:58 PM   #3
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Re: Shady FTP screen name changes

I don't see what was so shady about this? It looked like, in rare circumstance, Full Tilt allowed him to change his name and they did it in game so it looked fishy.
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Old 12-15-2010, 10:58 PM   #4
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so, he doesn't receive any e-mails from fulltilt(which are usually useless) and as a 'goodwill' gesture they let him change his name?
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:00 PM   #5
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Re: Shady FTP screen name changes

This thread is a complete waste of time, nothing shady here
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:01 PM   #6
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Re: Shady FTP screen name changes

kendog_819 was a **** screen name though..only reason i can think why they let him change it.
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:02 PM   #7
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Can't wait for the FTP response on this one.

Unless they are still going to "protect the integrity" of the games.
There's really no response to be anticipated...they already blatently lied to cover up the fact they let this guy change his name for no reason in the last thread...and then got caught in that lie from the screen shot posted...
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:03 PM   #8
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I don't see what was so shady about this? It looked like, in rare circumstance, Full Tilt allowed him to change his name and they did it in game so it looked fishy.
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This thread is a complete waste of time, nothing shady here
From the post in the picture (which Bobo Fett has confirmed existed and was deleted a few minutes later), it looks like FTP let him change his name "as a goodwill gesture". That's incredibly unfair. The dude plays tons of HU SnGs and has absolutely no right to get the huge edge of suddenly being anonymous in those games just cause support likes him or cause they feel bad cause he wasn't getting their e-mails or whatever.
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:05 PM   #9
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Re: Shady FTP screen name changes

i read this thread a few days ago and thought 'this is real shady'.

looks 100x shadier now.
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:06 PM   #10
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so, he doesn't receive any e-mails from fulltilt(which are usually useless) and as a 'goodwill' gesture they let him change his name?
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:06 PM   #11
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OP Used to play higher priced buyins = more rake.
OP Hit a $20k downswing as per his graph and started playing lower buyins ie. $20 the op played against him = less rake
FTP let him change name so he can be anonymous and not bumhunted anymore = higher buyins again and more rake.


Eazzzzzzzzzzzzy game.
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:07 PM   #12
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From the post in the picture (which Bobo Fett has confirmed existed and was deleted a few minutes later), it looks like FTP let him change his name "as a goodwill gesture". That's incredibly unfair. The dude plays tons of HU SnGs and has absolutely no right to get the huge edge of suddenly being anonymous in those games just cause support likes him or cause they feel bad cause he wasn't getting their e-mails or whatever.
They also lied about it when first questioned, before that screenshot was posted obv...

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Hi all,

As outlined earlier in this thread, we do need to allow players to change their ID for a very small number of valid reasons. I won’t specify these reasons in an effort to keep the integrity of the process intact, but I will say that this issue fell within the scope of this process.

I also want to assure everyone that nothing untoward happened; we were fully aware of the ID change. The only issue was that the ID was erroneously changed whilst the player was still playing at a table.

We appreciate that this must have come as a complete shock to the OP, and understand his confusion and concern; for that we apologize. We do currently have checks in place to limit the possibility of this happening, but it is obvious that we need to put in some more to ensure this never happens again.

Sean
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:09 PM   #13
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I don't see what was so shady about this? It looked like, in rare circumstance, Full Tilt allowed him to change his name and they did it in game so it looked fishy.
especially now in the age of PTR/sharskcope being able to change your name would be a big edge for any winning HU/HUSNG players and almost all winning players at 5/10+. but they don't let you change your s/n and multiaccounting is against the rules (and unethical in poker community etc). so the playing field for most regs who obey the rules is fairly even. but letting some change their names for no good reason would be an unfair advantage, and it seems shady or incompetent or just weird imo.
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:13 PM   #14
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I don't see what was so shady about this? It looked like, in rare circumstance, Full Tilt allowed him to change his name and they did it in game so it looked fishy.
They didn't allow him to as he didn't ask.

They completely out of the blue offered a namechange to him!
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:18 PM   #15
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Re: Shady FTP screen name changes

obv they let him change it cause his real name is Kenneth Dog
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:20 PM   #16
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Re: Shady FTP screen name changes

I'm not a fan of FTP, tar and feather Lederer IMO.
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:27 PM   #17
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OP Used to play higher priced buyins = more rake.
OP Hit a $20k downswing as per his graph and started playing lower buyins ie. $20 the op played against him = less rake
FTP let him change name so he can be anonymous and not bumhunted anymore = higher buyins again and more rake.


Eazzzzzzzzzzzzy game.
enough said

is FTP become UB II?
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:28 PM   #18
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Re: Shady FTP screen name changes

I will take a guess that this is one of the players that has changed his name, or has a new account for some other reason. Plausibly deniable.

Last edited by Pcallinallin; 12-15-2010 at 11:32 PM. Reason: loose end in the ball of string in a web of lies? wouldn't doubt it.
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:31 PM   #19
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Re: Shady FTP screen name changes

Whoa hold on, how do you know that this is out of the blue? Just because Kendog thinks it's odd and hasn't heard of a name change being done before doesn't mean that he hadn't been complaining about being threatened for example.

You guys are assuming that this was out of the blue without knowing if there was a prior history.
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:35 PM   #20
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so name changes are possible hmm
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:37 PM   #21
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Whoa hold on, how do you know that this is out of the blue? Just because Kendog thinks it's odd and hasn't heard of a name change being done before doesn't mean that he hadn't been complaining about being threatened for example.

You guys are assuming that this was out of the blue without knowing if there was a prior history.
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:40 PM   #22
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Assuming that this is all true, and I see no reason that this did not happen as exactly outlined in the other thread, this is totally unacceptable. Not only is FTP as a company proven though this to be scummy, so has Kendog aka epicfailure.

If I was approached to change my sn on FTP I would have said no. FTP's representatives, and who ever made the decision to allow this to happen should explain themselves immediately. How can a player, who clearly knew what was going on and that changing sn's is way out of line, ever accept such a shady offer and then act like a victim.

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Old 12-15-2010, 11:50 PM   #23
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Assuming that this is all true, and I see no reason that this did not happen as exactly outlined in the other thread, this is totally unacceptable. Not only is FTP as a company proven though this to be scummy, so has Kendog aka epicfailure.

If I was approached to change my sn on FTP I would have said no. FTP's representatives, and who ever made the decision to allow this to happen should explain themselves immediately. How can a player, who clearly knew what was going on and that changing sn's is way out of line, ever accept such a shady offer and then act like a victim.
your anger with kendog is a bit off..he was innocent enough to make a post on 2+2 disclosing everything when it happend lol which is the only reason this all came to light.

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Old 12-15-2010, 11:54 PM   #24
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Re: Shady FTP screen name changes

Would love for a ft rep to give us some details on the sn change, reasons, etc...

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Old 12-15-2010, 11:54 PM   #25
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your anger with kendog is a bit off..he was innocent enough to make a post on 2+2 disclosing everything when it happend lol which is the only reason this all came to light.
A headsup player taking an offered screen name change? Huge advantage.
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