I've grinded poker for 10 years buddy and 5ks for more than half of them so good guess. Lol at the personal attacks, as I said I bet you didn't even play the comp and as usual the moaners who have the biggest problem are the ones least or not affected at all.

I played the comp via a satelite which I bought in from my own pocket and have no affiliation with brs so please lecture me again about how selfish and self serving I am.

I think your head is having a hard time understanding that it works out better for the recreational players having these players put in. You seem focused on it being worse when their money goes way further and more comes back into their pockets this way.

I also don't understand why your putting emphasis on "hard earned" money. Is this a new rule where only people with "hard earned" money who have saved up 3 months salary are allowed to play as opposed to an arabian king who turns up with boat loads of cash?? If the money is being ponied up honestly what difference does it make?

You refer to them as "dirty deals". Still waiting to hear why they are dirty?

I think there are some legitimate concerns that have been raised by others, I don't think you have raised any.

The stuff about collusion online in satties being the main one. This is a legitimate concern as the fields are small, you will be playing the same players and just the nature of satelites being a flat payout with a massive bubble and it being easy for players to give each other walks and pass chips etc etc

It's not an easy problem to resolve but it's going to basically mean strickter checks on partys end I guess, I don't see what else the answer can be.

Done argueing with people on the internet so I'll leave it to yall said my 2 cents peace.

openjam that AKo in satty, induce with TT is terrible too, thats true.

So Pokerstars facilitates tax evasion?

No. Avoidance is not evasion.

Without wishing to derail the thread, I suggest you read this;

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...early-1428755/

This;
https://www.pokerstars.gr/en/poker/r...pport/pwt-faq/

And this;
https://pokerfuse.com/features/in-de...rations-27-11/

True story

Thanks for the reading info. I guess Stars sees value in having 2100, and 1050 buyin 180 player sngs that never take off and have a lobby full of Greeks in there

Here's what most people do not seem to get about all of this:

- Yes, it's shady to put horses in your own tournaments.
- You're running the tournament while having a financial interest in specific players.
- It's even worse when it's done in the dark.
- To those who think it's standard, no, it's not.
- Some casinos might do it, but it never happened with online poker sites.

Pokerstars has never "staked" any of their Team Pros, and even though some sponsorship deals include "tournament tickets", it's always part of the sallary, they do not involve staking at all.

There's a reason why, for example, no Pokerstars employee or relative is ever allowed to play on the site or at their live events.

If Partypoker is (and they are) putting not only their sponsored players but also its own employees to fill the guarantees, how can the rest of the field feel safe and know for sure these players aren't somehow being favored by the organization?

And that's why it's shady.
Caesar's wife must be above suspicion.

Talal, it's becoming obvious that you are somehow involvmed with Partypoker, and you should either disclose this or stop making these kinds of posts you do on EVERY thread about Partypoker, dismissing criticism even when they're clearly in the wrong (as they are in this case).

Do you have a financial interest in Partypoker or in Amaya's decline?

We're not blind.

Yes I saw a lot of former full time players who now work at PartyPoker at DTD who were playing in the event.

Stars allowed their employees to play in their Isle of Man UKIPTs, but they made it very clear they were employees AND their BIs were added to the GTD, so even tho the events overlaid, the prizepools were above the GTDs.

I made a formal complaint to the UKGC and anyone can do the same, regardless of your location. I now work in the gambling industry and it is very easy to be apathetic with the licensing bodies, but the UK is different and they take any breaches VERY seriously.

Party/DTD and their associated stables are so out of line here and it is no coincidence that the scummiest stable of the lot has now gone dark.

info@gamblingcommission.gov.uk

Complain here. It will take 90 seconds and help stop this behaviour.

Everyone comes at this from their own perspective. Someone like Raidalot probably just likes huge fields with huge buyins and doesn't really care where the players are coming from. Totally understandable from his perspective as he doesn't take freerolls in the parking lot so he isn't on the stables side.

The rest of us whom care about potential overlays, expects bubble play to be played like legit tourneys seem to care and the responses have been overwhelming in that direction.

As for Party Poker employees playing in the events I'd love some names.

So I made a post on here a few hours ago which has been deleted, can someone let me know why?

I'll try again without the player's name, maybe that was the issue.

Are you the same guy who applied to BRS for staking giving the Stars alias pur3decided in both November 2015 and November 2016 and was rejected each time?

I'm not a mod, but I'm assuming it's because you identified someone who has posted in this thread criticizing the influence of stables in the poker industry by posting a real first and last name.

You said the person applied to be a part of a stable in 2015/2016, said the person got rejected, and then posted the real name.

Aside from being against the forum rules afaik, and aside from being a p-o-s tactic, you really shouldn't utilize information that you gained in good faith, cross reference that with online poker site screen names and post it publicly -- even if you disagree with an opinion being presented.

The way you nonchalantly disclose this private info is partially responsible (imo) for sweeping GDPR guidelines and other lockdown regulations that are getting passed, because bad apples insist on going #ThugLife when your (alleged?) sh**ty business model gets exposed for what it really is.

I also find it ironic that you're so awesome at disclosing other peoples' private info, yet haven't been at all transparent about the issues being discussed in this thread.

Whats the relevance of this? If he is someone who did apply, does that really change his opinion? Maybe he applied before he knew the kind of operation that BRS was?

The poker world is full of different kinds of players and as this thread has shown, a lot of them are very, very angry about the situation with Party/DTD and BRS and similar stables.

Funny that in a thread full of allegations, the only time a BRS employee/friend comes in is to make a sly dig at a player who wasn't accepted to their stable.

I don't want to take either of the options you offer, thank you. The first because it's not true and the second because I don't accept your right to restrict me from posting when and where I choose.

You are wrong in what you perceive as "obvious". I am not:

- Involved with PP.
- Financially interested in PP or in Amaya's decline.
- Involved in any stables, staking, etc.

I do believe:

- (What I posted) The practice of giving discounted entries to live tourneys is not in the "shady" category
- Poker players have been ill-served by Amaya
- More competition among sites would be healthy
- PP is making efforts to improve and invest in poker and I welcome that

I feel you are being too hasty in challenging my motives. I can have a different view to yours without being driven by hidden incentives.

You all forgot...

Raidalot for Poker President

Vote Raidalot

can i please have some free 5k buy ins?

i'd love to know whats happened to BRS? some are stating that everything was above board but why have they fell of the map? closing all social media and locking website

Here are two:

Tom Waters:
https://twitter.com/tom_waters
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=508056

Charlie Godwin:
https://twitter.com/charlie_godwin
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=215763

Here are two ongoing Twitter discussions about bitB that began yesterday.

https://twitter.com/plenopads/status...01566325387264
https://twitter.com/Joeingram1/statu...79574395101184

I think stables should register all their members to the sites they play on and other players should be made aware whenever they play against them, for example in the form of a tag like the "mobile" tag on PS, but then more like:



Also makes it a lot easier to ban every single one of them and confiscate their funds when they eventually do something scummy.

the guy you're responding to is way out of line, but lol @ ever giving the benefit of the doubt to somebody whose net worth is measured in BILLIONS. lol stop with the victim/raised by wolves stuff

lotta bad/uninformed takes itt and i'm not gonna go into a bunch of details but i'll just say this- i speak 100% from experience both as a backed player (for one month, a few years ago), as a friend of a formerly backed player, and as a friend of a (former?) manager for the organization, BRS has a track record of being willing to bend the rules/break TOS if it means their horses make extra money.

the most concerning issue isnt that they're phoning up mediocre players to come punt and fill up the guarantee, it's that their track record (and party's) would basically make any reasonable person conclude that it's a very small chance that whatever they're doing behind the scenes is being done ethically.

and you know, some of the guys doing stuff in an administrative or management capacity for BRS are super solid dudes and have helped me quite a bit (unrelated to staking), and the organization as a whole is mostly reputable in my experience. but if party is going to try and position themselves as some kind of industry leader and they're engaged in some sort of shenanigans, then the community has a right to know that in the "wild west" of untracked euro sites, BRS has definitely acted the adept cowboy role for years and is no stranger to manipulating shady situations in their favor. and i def raised an eyebrow when i saw that they recently sent a couple dozen players to a $5k in sochi or wherever. my biggest concern would be an implicit agreement of collusion between the horses, but a lot of that danger is mitigated by the fact that most of them suck and also bad players are bad at colluding too. so i mean absent some new revelations, i dont think this is a super big deal, at least at this point.

This

Yeah overall this is my feeling as well, my main gripe is how Party keeps denying anything is going on. If everything is legal and above board I don't understand why they feel such a strong need to lie about it. This was the last replies from Party when asked:

Actually pretty surprised to see they both play on PartyPoker as well. For some reason I just assumed that all sites had the same policy as Stars for legal reasons. I'm sure nothing is going on but think it's bizzare the head of poker also plays there. Is that the policy on any other sites as well?