I want Lipo to cash. We can all root for Lipo!

Erm, people funking for him after he sacked the thread off due to one chat with Rob Yong, who basically said he can do wtf he wants?

So many big Qs left unanswered, sigh.

+ 1, although not rooting against lipo. It seems to me like he came to an agreement that suited him and realised that if he continued to speak up then that might be problematic for him. I'm not surprised and I don't really blame any players for being worried about being rebellious given the accusations against rob and the way bans are handed out for disagreeing with him. (fwiw I have no prior knowledge or experience with him, but some of the things that have been said in this thread are imo likely to be true given the details provided across many posts).

Party are 100% still running some kind of staking operation online with the better members of BRS, and I'm pretty sure that at least some of them were given new accounts since this scandal came to light. It's definitely happening less often now but it's still happening. High rake back percentages and generally shady dealings are still going on.

For lipo I can understand him trying to save face while at the event and for the sake of his vast investment into the leaderboards, as would anyone who invested so much money and time.

It’s the same with any current brs player, they will stick up for brs,pp etc because they have an interest but it’s only once that interest comes to an end that they raise the wrong doings. It’s a shame really but money corrupts all.

The silence is deafening from pp,dtd etc and seems to me they want things to just fizzle out and everyone will forget until afew years later and the same problems will be raised again.

I don’t know the answer to the problem but lies and secrets always come out in the end.

Well one thing is for certain now -- as no one from party ever came out with an official statement, and the closest we got was a proxy from a player who has done what's best for himself (not the community), partypoker and their associates (read: Patrick Leonard) can no longer claim to be the most transparent poker site. If they ever try to claim that again, they need to be called out on it.

Whoever believed in this while the weasel-rat(aka Patrick Leonard,aka oursurveysays) is the ambassador should really consider put himself under 24 hour guardianship in a sanatory cause might as well thinks santa Claus is for real

I love it that me as an anonymous coward can allege and say anything i want with littel or no evidence and it is then seemingly regarded as factual, certanly never doubted or questioned even if illogical

If anyone defends BRS/Party then they are doing so because they have a vested interest to do so

great way to have a fair and reasonable discussion.

I keep seeing how players have been banned from various UK casinos other than DTD for saying this or that.

Very interesting that most of the crowd on this here are not from the UK though apparently because UK players are afraid of the national casino bans they will allegdly be prone to.

Any chance we can find an example of any one of those people banned from various UK casinos there must be a good few , name one?


I guess all those UK casino groups Genting Grosvenor etc , all of whom tried to prevent DTD even opening and all of whom are in immediate direct competition with DTD happily get "the phone call from Rob" saying

that bloke said somewthing i dont like please ban him from your casino group - and they just jump to it and ban them

are you lot serious with this!!!

I'm from the UK, reason not many UK people are contributing is mostly because no one really cares about it.

No one cheated, no money stolen, no money lost, people like DTD, Rob is considered a big contributor to UK poker and millions week seemed to be a good week.

We're all a bit busy with Brexit right now, loading up on croissants before they become really expensive.

And come on, poker community, it's not 2009 anymore when the poker community was actually a thing, this community you speak off died with FTP and Stars. If you're still clinging to it, time to wake up.

It’s clear you are not in the know here.

The history with DTD & competitors is long since put to bed. DTD was sharing the Genting online software for a long time. They clearly got on just fine.

Rob bans people for fun. He is an ego driven dick. Lest we forget he banned Sam tricket way back when. Now he has named a room after him. Rob does what is good for rob.

It is also absolute fact he has had a decent number of players banned from all Uk casinos! Why would people lie about it??

I was banned from DTD for saying that I intended to go public with the details of my dispute with them.
They also removed me from the social media sites under their control at the time.
My issues were far less damaging to them than the PPL/BRS situation, so I would be very surprised to see other UK based players identifying themselves here.

Sadly there's an awful lot of truth to this statement. I don't blame Lipo for saying what he said as I no longer expect anything from nearly anyone in poker except to serve their own immediate interests first.... having said that it's no wonder as a whole we've being screwed into the ground. Collectively we are near powerless to stop shady dealings from operators due to the me 1st and right now attitude of so many players in this industry.

+1. As the games have got a bit harder, people have very much become less ethical and much less vocal about wrong doings in the industry. Players fear the guys who are well known because they have contacts, resources and influence on things. The reason why so many guys will not criticise the big stables is because they think that one day they might go looking to them for a stake. The lack of interest in the other thread about a huge number of players who got banned for using some kind of illegal GTO software speaks volumes about how little people care about the state of the games beyond their immediate EV over the next few sessions.

I'd go even further than that.

I think majority of the players in high variance formats are in staking deals.
Probably avg staked player who sees what "little" things going on in literally every stables won't usually come out and start making deal about the same crap his group does.

Most ppl could already see there are couple "kingpins" in top of this tens of millions dollar gray area businesses. So if not already in stables maybe in the future you just won't be able to join even if life situation get screwed.

I cant find Party Poker / Rob Yong discord group. Could someone invite me please?

£75,000 gtee, £140 entry, 329 runners.

https://www.dusktilldawncasinonottin...id=10090&name=

This may be the best time to be heading to Nottingham for a while...

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Yikes

A series of unfortunate events...

Day 2 of the PP KO series, missed a few more guarantees. Perhaps we underestimated the size of the BRS stable?

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Edit - this link may work

https://poker.partypoker.com/en/blog...aestrecha.html

It's not as much that people are less ethical, or less vocal (although that's not an entirely inaccurate description) the main thing is back 10 years ago player interests and "community" Interests were firmly alligned. Now its 2018/19, and community interests and direct player interests are not alligned at all - these days if you're sacrificing anything at all for the sake of the poker community you're likely just throwing money away.

Like you said, games are harder, everyone is making a hell of a lot less money and the guys throwing money away have either gone broke or learnt not to do it.

This ain't great, I don't like it...but it's how it is, sticking your head in the sand and vilifying guys for acting in their own best interests isn't really fair. No one owes anyone anything at the end of the day.

correct in some ways

But what gets my back up is when these players preach how good these things are for the community....many try and justify why it’s such a good thing to do this or that, yet most recs don’t and won’t understand this...such as stables or having players willing to drop 4 bullets in a overlaying comp n playing like a manic.

Are we ment to feel sorry for the pro player who decides to quit work to go pro and struggle to make money? No they made that choice...my heart bleeds for the winning player.

A winning player complains and actions are taken....a losing player complains and it’s seen as a lie or because they are a losing player...

It’s more than just having players willing to ‘drop 4 bullets’, it’s the fact that tournaments are designed to make that attractive to them.

The overlays (and commentary surrounding them) are becoming a big story, especially leading up to the partypoker $20M GTD Millions Online, which kicks off tomorrow.

Lance Bradley and Donnie Peters talked about this topic in-depth during the most recent episode of The Fives Podcast (9:55-30:58).

https://www.pocketfives.com/articles...n-xvii-621448/

Just listened or maybe the one after and they mention the bogus extended lunch break and the even more bogus explination for it. Definitely some agendas going on here. Kind of reminds me of Party Pokers online series last year that failed to meet a huge overlay and then the site crashed (coincidentally).

what I want to say is that my local card room has "house players" as well. They enter the Tourney for free and get keep 50% of their earning.... Always think this is wrong.

In USA, poker is a level II game which player gamble with other player.
With the house players, player is gambling with the House rep which is a level III game (which, many States does not allowed)

Online event with multiple day ones and all the usual opportunities to fire multiple bullets hits/beats guarantee...

John Duthie’s blog on the subject confirms that he’s had way too many late nights

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