Amazing that BRS/ex Brs are still coming out with lies to defend them. Matt Harris has made a long post on the Ace High Poker group on Facebook. Using the fact that he played mainly cash as a way of pleading ignorance and pretending he knows nothing about tickets converted to cash and PPL. I know for a fact,, that he was in Facebook group chats with other mentors discussing facts about tickets being swept and the way PPL worked. Convenient that he can exclude talking about the one thing about BRS that people were concerned about. A well written out post apart from that!

Another BRS member, James Ablott has commented claiming that people were only able to use PPL that they had won. I think he’s forgetting that we can see how much PPL players won on a leaderboard, and can also see events BRS players played during the millions. Example of this is Adam Neal aka IT5PAYDAY, clearly only won about 2k PPl, played at least the main at Millions for BRS. Sums don’t add up guys.

Excellent can you show us this chat you know as a fact took place with matt harris

isnt james ablotts online alias captsetmine as said in earlier posts

are you in fact james ablott or are you impersonating him

If that account was destroyed because it was impersonating Jaylee18, can I please ask why captsetmine has been allowed to keep their account when they are impersonating James Ablott? James is pretty well known in the UK poker scene and it's also pretty well known that this is his screen name, and yet this poster is 100% confirmed to not be him.

The nuke button is likely reserved for obvious in-forum troll accounts. Modding is not a detective investigation, more like squishing the occasional bug.

IMO, of course.

I am clearly not trying to impersonate him. So you’ve no reply to the comments made about your post other than to try and get me banned?

Neither, commenting on him in the 3rd person would be strange in either of those instances.

I presume you’re claiming to be Matt Harris with the screen name Rexas?

It is interesting for me that most player names are UK based therefor image what this thread would be if the main staked players/owners of the stables were from East Europe... LUL

I have been following the thread and the facebook posts with interest and would like to mention the following -

1) Can someone take a dormant Company (DTD ONLINE) and name change it to a brand name of another Company (PARTY POKER LIVE) presumably retaining the original articles of association and incorporation and then carry on business as if it was part of the other Company. Surely GVC Holdings/Party Poker would have to have consented in writing and by contract to somebody else having a corporation with their brand name? Therefore is it not impossible for GVC/Party to claim they know nothing about this PPL/BRS/DTD free-entry-to-offset-overlay thing and the mechanics of PPL and Party Poker back office with respect to this "currency?" Every one of these entities must be working with each other at the highest level and even under contract, which in my mind would explain the complete silence and resulting dismissive attitude towards players. I think it's high time that the MD's of GVC/Party poker and of DTD/Party Poker Live Ltd make a joint statement if there is nothing to hide and nothing illicit going on. That way, it can be put to bed finally. There is far too much of a smoke screen at the moment.

2) I too saw so many ridiculous posts trying to throw this thread off track so thank you to the mods for keeping it alive. At least 5 people I know have reported all this to the UKGC so hopefully they will do a full investigation.

3) To those of you on fb and here that keep going on about "no collusion in the satellites etc at the live events" - I can tell you first hand that it was rampant. In addition please note that others and I have confirmed multiple entry/re-entries into satellites, 1k and 5k events by people with hardly any PPL. It's not fiction.

4) This whole thing has kicked off because of PPL dollars and its setup and an army of horses attending live events using PPL dollars from various sources. It does look like BRS have been thrown under the bus as they were probably only doing what they have been told to do and sending people to DTD to play in the live events which are going to overlay and playing satellites on Party Poker to avoid overlay there too.

JP

I believe what you are saying regarding satellites and PPL, but do they get free entries in mtts to cover overlays? I guess you may not know the answer to that. Most people say that everyone getting free rolls is terrible and barely knows the rules etc but I know a few guys that are excellent players who regularly get put into big stuff that's not hitting the guarantee. I'm sure there are many others like that. You would not want them in your games no matter how good you are.

If bitb is also getting these deals, it kind of negates the argument that these free rolls are 'good for the game'. FWIW I have no idea about what happens at bitb but given the number of people saying that they might be getting some sort of deal, this seems like an important question to ask.

Same question applies to the Brazilian stable which allegedly has links to Party.

@joepublic I'd love to answer some of the questions/points you've made on here, but I'm deliberately staying away from answering anything on here for reasons I've made clear on my Facebook post. If you head on over to that post and comment there, I'll do the best I can to answer your grievances.

Part 1- The origins and players involved:

Rob Yong opened Dusk Till Dawn poker club roughly 10 years ago in the city of Nottingham, England. For years DTD has run ambitious guarantees, and prior to Party Poker’s involvement, the allegations of Overlay filling occurred. In the early days of DTD if a guarantee was likely not to be met a wealthy businessman named Richard Berridge who is friends with Rob Yong, would be gracious enough to bankroll players into the event. Whether Berridge did this on his own accord or was using his own money may never be answered but this is the first of many allegations to come of Rob Yong using proxies to bankroll players into his own events that were facing imminent overlays. Any money won by these backed players is still profitable in case of an overlay.

Paul Jackson, the figurehead of BRS, has been around the online business for many years. His first foray into the staking business dates back to around 2006. Jackson was in partnership with Conor Tait an Irish Poker player whom cashed for 600k in the 2005 WSOP. Together they ran a stable called Uncover Poker which started putting players on the old Tribeca network and then transitioned over to the I-Poker Network. There was a falling out between the two and Tait continued this venture on his own for several more years. Paul Jackson founded BRS in 2008 also had a falling out with Rob Yong whom just opened DTD around the same time. Jackson felt entitled to payment for steering players over to DTD and it seems Yong didn’t make good on that arrangement. Obviously in the years to come all seemed to be forgiven. From most accounts BRS was run professionally for several years and provided players including such notables as Sam Trickett, a current Party Poker pro, a head start in poker.

To my knowledge no they don't, at least I have never seen anything like this mentioned anywhere by anyone.

I am sure one of the players would have mentioned it somewhere if they were getting free entry or some kind of deal.

Or a ex horse who is upset (and I am sure there are a few) would have said something.

Like I said before actually most of the guys put in the highest volume on stars and even .es/winamax from what I see.

I don't know anything about Brazil stables I have never had anything to do with them.

I really don't understand where any of this stuff came from.

Well actually I do have some ideas. For some reason a bunch of people have a issue with pads for whatever reason. It's the same 4/5 people that litter his pgc thread and the party mtt thread and troll relentlessly.

Meanwhile Paul Jackson takes down a WSOPE bracelet with 10 runners... Wonder how many people he put in the event.
I was playing for Bankrollsupply at the very beginning after leaving Badbeat.com which was literally the same bunch of people. He made me grind solely on the site PokerEncore which he had interests in. I was promised the earth with mentoring and meets etc but nothing prevailed. In the end i just left, but hearing all this just confirmed what i was always thinking. Paul and his crew are deffo behind some shady dealings.
I cannot believe how some BRS players are coming in to defend him. Paul Jackson is just freerolling life at the moment and he will prob get away with it.
I have tried messaging a few people from BRS including Paul Jackson but no reply. I will keep on trying to see what he has to say or who hes going to blame

I don't have facebook, what are the reasons? Looking at your posts you are the first BRS rep to get involved here on the forum so I think it's a shame if you only want to engage on Facebook when the primary discussion is taking place here and you could easily clear up the confusion about a lot of the issues from this thread.

I don't really think BitB is involved either, mainly because they seem way more interested in turning people into really good players and making money that way than chasing overlay. I think it's a mistake to discourage people to come forward though and write them off as trolls. The logic that just because you don't know about it and that they clearly don't have the same deal as BRS means that they can't have any deal at all seems flawed to me. Party Poker and all it's people have refused to speak out about it for almost a month and their ecology expert runs one of the biggest online stables in the world. The complete silence of Party Poker should have the blame for why people logically associate the two, not all the customers who they are keeping completely in the dark.

Hi mement_mori - I have chosen to keep this off 2+2 because I strongly disagree with how this thread has been handled, and do not want to engage a bunch of accounts created purely to post on this thread and create drama. I don't know how many people are actually posting on here, it could be the same person with multiple accounts fuelling it all as far as I know. At least on Facebook you can see who you're speaking to. I've done an AMA style post on there, I'm not a BRS rep and it's not a BRS statememt but I was with them for some time in various capacities and wanted to address as many of the issues that have been raised over the past few weeks as possible.

I'm afraid to say I will be sticking to my guns on this and not answering people on this forum, I just can't see a good reason to. Apologies if you feel like you're being ignored but given the way this thread has gone it seems to me like a sensible decision.

bitb have 100% been given freeroll seats from partypoker of mtts from $109 up to $25k, absolute truth, would love pads to come on and deny this but he won’t because it’s a fact!

Hey Mickey hope your doing well?

I am not writing off people coming forward as trolls. Its the same 4/5 posters that seem to have a issue with pads personally. Infecting every thread about party or him with this kind of stuff.

Clearly something is going on with brs. Even before this thread it was obvious to any mtt reg that party sats were filled with losing bad regs from Brs and all the BRS players were exclusively on party and no other site.

Secondly you could be right, perhaps there could be some deal that I, all the horses and all the various coaches/management are not aware of.
However logic would suggest that somewhere it would have slipped out after years a been known to some people somewhere.
Also if there was some kind of deal going on then given the actions of the stable. It's the worst executed deal in history.

All the players would I assume he heavily encouraged to play mainly party and also pushed into mtts when there was overlay. Which doesn't happen as far as I have seen.

So this leads to the conclusion that it's highly unlikely something is going on there. Which is why I also said to the best of my knowledge.

Also you are correct party should have said something or responded in a official capacity.

i just think all the stables; pokerwinners, bitb and brs have had or been accused of having the same relationship with partypoker, why is all the hate directed specifically towards paul jackson, his family and business, i don’t see anyone on here targeting michael copley, his family or pokerwinners, or even any of the bitb owners, who are silent by the way, pads does not fund bitb but is only the face of the company and is the one who brought in the ‘secret’ deals from partypoker

pads has just been extremely wise by keeping the deals to himself or his superiors only, pokerwinners likely the same, where as brs have had loose lips from the top unfortunately which has escalated in to chinese whispers resulting in multiple false stories and accusations appearing on threads like this, partypoker or rob yong should make a statement and stop letting brs take the abuse

it’s not a coincidence that brs are being used as the scapegoat here, people creating several accounts with brs players/ex players usernames from what appears to be other stables taking the heat away from them, it should be directed towards partypoker/rob yong and questions should be answered

Nice work. Looking forward to part two!

How do you know this is the case?

Matt Harris is doing what I’ves seen Paul Jackson tell his BRS Facebook group to do many a time. He told players to not get into debates online with faceless posters, because he can’t get them barred from DTD and other casinos if he doesn’t know who they are. I presume that’s why there are a number of posters on here worried about revealing who they are. Matt is lying about not knowing about tickets being exchanged and PPL, details were posted on the BRS Facebook when he was a member, regularly about tickets being swept for cash, as well as the mentor Facebook group chat he was in. Hiding behind, ‘I’m a cash player and don’t know about mtts’ is a lie, and anybody that was in BRS knows that.