Here is the link to the John Duthie blog entry that "Pokerpops" is referring to.

https://poker.partypoker.com/en/blog...as-insane.html

Thanks for that

This is so disingenuous:

You can't compare whatever WCOOP main it was that generated the $12m prizepool as that was a freezeout.

There's also this gem:

He forgot to mention the multi-million dollar overlay budget. Satellites were overlaying every single day, and there's little doubt that partypoker or Rob Young freerolled a bunch of players in to pad out the field like they've been known to do.

On the plus side of the satellite overlays, one guy qualified for $5.50 and won over $1.3 million:

https://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/w...-poker/104730/

I call on the ‘qualified for $5.50’ line.
I am prepared to believe that he qualified via a $5.50 satellite, but I would want some convincing that he won his first and only such game, and then proceeded through the satellite tree from that with no further attempts at any level.

You must be fun at parties

The guy could have spent thousands on satties. His post has merit.

I heard he entered 5 different $5.50 satellites and that really takes the shine off this story, another fun fact Chris Moneymakers so called boom is also a fake as he played a $27 satellite FOR THE SAME MAIN EVENT he won off an $86 satellite what a let down.

Yeah, spending less than a hundo to win a milli. What a disappointment.

This thread seems to have gone a little off topic here. Lets get back on topic. Is partypoker shady????

Yes its my first post as i dont want to get banned from playing in a casino in the uk.

I play on all sites and love the the fact partypoker had prop players playing the PPL sats as most of them were losing players. As you can see the schedule for all PPL sats has all changed since BRS left the market. I have never been staked and have no interest in it. But i have friends that are staked players and have friends that have been staked in the past. No of the players have a bad word to say about BRS(Now samstaking) But the rumors of people having cash instead of PPL is 100% true i have seen it first hand more than once. Even tho the cash used for was Partypoker live events the cash was sent to the players account to cash out and take with them. Also the fact partypoker packages are none transferable is a lie. There was a handful of players that won packages to live events and didnt go. The package would be transferred to another player and they would play for a very small % As a company brs would be able to do this and i think its a perk for being a vip on the site. Not everyone will agree this is fair its just my point of view.

The myth of the non-transferable package predates PPL as I know to my cost.


Tell us more about samstaking.

I’m thinking there hasn’t been a statement released then?

All those affected seem to be happy now after the Caribbean tour?

Stables are unethical and shady. Period.

This is to hide funds from the Greek tax man. Once a day all Greek account balances are noted and they have to pay a % of it in tax...EVERY day. The authorities have no clue wtf is happening,go figure...

So basically the Greeks register for Mtt's every day to effectively hide their balance,that's why you see the lobbies filled with mostly them. Unlucky for them guys!

Rip Greece.

Is this tax fraud? If so Pokerstars has known this takes place obviously for several years

Can anybody cliff's this thread. Is there any other claims of shadiness other than what is posted in OP?

https://imgur.com/a/jDoJ0Hv
https://imgur.com/QW5Lisf
guess those sweatings/ghostings went pretty good - https://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/crazyem34/

But people say stables aren't cancer.

Those screen shots are so damning. I'd long suspected this was going on in a lot of different game types, and it goes some way to explaining why so many fish had decent results on party, when so many good stars regs struggled there.

Any updates from the ukgc, or any chance of a statement from party?

As they continue to be shady in how they deal with players and run events. They have now decided to take additional rake the same way. They have been taking the 3% they claim as staff fee but it is being used as marketing and operational costs.

So basically they are taking an additional 3% from the players they say they care about but are basically not only charging a fee to play their poorly ran events they are charging more and stealing from staff at the same time. They are just using the live events to bring players money to them to find ways to take it through shady ways.

You may have to clarify. Are the dealers being paid? If yes then that's what the 3% is for or perhaps I'm missing something.

The dealers are being paid a flat rate by them determined before the event but Party takes the 3% under the guise of it being for staff. An easy example is they took 3% for every event at the CPP which totaled to almost 1 million USD but 0% of it was actually paid to staff. It was used for marketing and operational costs. Which since it was used for those purposes means the players pay for their own overlays with that additional 3% rake hidden as a staff fee on top of the percentage paid in the reg fee.
https://partypokerlive.com/en/terms-and-conditions
And for this event just as in Barcelona it's stated for staff costs.
So basically I. Their two largest events they have raked almost 2 million USD additionally on top of rake and using the statement of a staff fee to hide it.

Hello,

I’ve heard rumors of players being offered last minute freerolls into big PartyPoker events, like the recent $10k Millions Online but also in live events run by Party.

From what I gather it seems ‘they’ (whoever that means, most likely someone from PartyPoker) are putting players in tournaments to avoid overlay and possible create some equity for themselves. The player would be offered a great stakingdeal: for example a 20% freeroll.

It seems very shady to me, but you don’t hear much about it because this is a win/win for everyone involved - except obviously for the rest of the playing field.

What I would like to know is if someone can confirm what I’ve been told. Have you been offered such a deal? Have u heard of such deals? Because as I would like to point out again, so far all I’ve heard is rumors. I am looking for confirmation on this.