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Old 09-15-2019, 08:21 PM   #476
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Re: *** September 2019 High Stakes Thread ***

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I see.

Guys! We must never discuss what happened 3 days ago EVER again because @pocketshades has deemed this subject over and done with!

****ing clown.
We should not discuss LLinusLLove.

Now we need to discuss bajskorven87, Fiilismies, and those who together with them produce information attacks on players. They attack those to whom they lose.


Why are they not responsible for libel?
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Old 09-15-2019, 08:32 PM   #477
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This hand is pretty amazing. Can Linus ever be bluffing here on the river with the 4x pot bet? What bluffs can he possibly have? Is it possible to fold the Ax on the river? I need some discussion
IMO I think you can't ever fold because Linus can also have A and do this
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Old 09-15-2019, 08:36 PM   #478
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This hand is pretty amazing. Can Linus ever be bluffing here on the river with the 4x pot bet? What bluffs can he possibly have? Is it possible to fold the Ax on the river? I need some discussion
bloof all the Ax as IP for the freeroll, hate life with all Ax as the OOP player, spin randomiser and then ignore and go with your gut
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Old 09-15-2019, 08:46 PM   #479
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Re: *** September 2019 High Stakes Thread ***

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tyty

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It was either KK or 45cc. 50% chance to win the pot, standard river call.
He was going for that Jungleman Queen high call down glory.
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Old 09-15-2019, 09:49 PM   #480
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Re: *** September 2019 High Stakes Thread ***

good to see regfish still punting
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Old 09-15-2019, 10:34 PM   #481
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It was either KK or 45cc. 50% chance to win the pot, standard river call.
That's not standard call.That's indifference point spot that produces 0 EV for the caller if bettor is perfectly balanced. Standard calls should produce +EV.
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Old 09-15-2019, 10:35 PM   #482
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That's not standard call.That's indifference point spot that produces 0 EV for the caller if bettor is perfectly balanced. Standard calls should produce +EV.
.... I think you missed the point
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Old 09-15-2019, 10:36 PM   #483
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Re: *** September 2019 High Stakes Thread ***

if you fold QT here what you gonna call with? can't let them run you over
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Old 09-15-2019, 10:44 PM   #484
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.... I think you missed the point
Did I?This guys r playing their ranges and created models based on their sims.In this hand limitless probably did some 10% call based on his RNG.And we r saying:what a monkey play!Maybe LLove can criticize.We should not.
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Old 09-15-2019, 10:52 PM   #485
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Re: *** September 2019 High Stakes Thread ***

standard call, he blocks QJo, one of his bluffing hands.
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Old 09-15-2019, 11:01 PM   #486
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As I see,Baron used some 70%pot 4 bets model for stacks to go in by the river .Noone knows what r his combos that barrel 3 streets with 100% accuracy.That flop doesn't favors his range so I don't think that we can be 100% sure that QJo is betting the flop.
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:13 AM   #487
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Re: *** September 2019 High Stakes Thread ***

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if you fold QT here what you gonna call with? can't let them run you over
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Did I?This guys r playing their ranges and created models based on their sims.In this hand limitless probably did some 10% call based on his RNG.And we r saying:what a monkey play!Maybe LLove can criticize.We should not.
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standard call, he blocks QJo, one of his bluffing hands.
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As I see,Baron used some 70%pot 4 bets model for stacks to go in by the river .Noone knows what r his combos that barrel 3 streets with 100% accuracy.That flop doesn't favors his range so I don't think that we can be 100% sure that QJo is betting the flop.
trolololol. obv answer is either he had it or he's bluffing, doesnt matter what you have
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:21 AM   #488
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trolololol. obv answer is either he had it or he's bluffing, doesnt matter what you have
That's what I said. Indifference principle spot. EV=0.But matters what u have because Q high needs to beat all the bluffs for the price paid. Perfect GTO is impossible to implement.
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Old 09-16-2019, 01:02 AM   #489
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Re: *** September 2019 High Stakes Thread ***

it was probably a misclick or he misread his hand man, it is very ****in far from an indifferent call, do you even poker
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Old 09-16-2019, 01:44 AM   #490
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Re: *** September 2019 High Stakes Thread ***

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say limitless didn’t use his RNG for that one.... that hand was off-sim.
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:11 AM   #491
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it was probably a misclick or he misread his hand man, it is very ****in far from an indifferent call, do you even poker
No,sorry.I do not poker.
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:59 AM   #492
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Re: *** September 2019 High Stakes Thread ***

He is calling as a bluff catcher considering villain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0jcmevjeyk

/this discussion
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:10 AM   #493
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Re: *** September 2019 High Stakes Thread ***

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $50/$100 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

oSpiel888 (UTG): $10,365.00 (104 bb)
makeboifin (MP): $10,375.05 (104 bb)
MrLeeQ (CO): $10,548.50 (105 bb)
zerfer03 (BU): $10,000.00 (100 bb)
OtB_RedBaron (SB): $10,164.00 (102 bb)
GiveMeUP (BB): $10,000.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
4 players fold, OtB_RedBaron (SB) raises to $310, GiveMeUP (BB) 3-bets to $900, OtB_RedBaron (SB) calls $590

Flop: ($1,800) 7 A 2 (2 players)
OtB_RedBaron (SB) checks, GiveMeUP (BB) bets $538.50, OtB_RedBaron (SB) calls $538.50

Turn: ($2,877) K (2 players)
OtB_RedBaron (SB) checks, GiveMeUP (BB) bets $2,125.28, OtB_RedBaron (SB) calls $2,125.28

River: ($7,127.56) 9 (2 players)
OtB_RedBaron (SB) checks, GiveMeUP (BB) bets $6,436.22 (all-in), OtB_RedBaron (SB) calls $6,436.22

Total pot: $20,000 (Rake: $5)

Showdown:
GiveMeUP (BB) shows T J (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 18%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)

OtB_RedBaron (SB) shows T K (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 82%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%)

OtB_RedBaron (SB) wins $19,995
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:31 AM   #494
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Re: *** September 2019 High Stakes Thread ***

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PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $50/$100 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

oSpiel888 (UTG): $10,365.00 (104 bb)
makeboifin (MP): $10,375.05 (104 bb)
MrLeeQ (CO): $10,548.50 (105 bb)
zerfer03 (BU): $10,000.00 (100 bb)
OtB_RedBaron (SB): $10,164.00 (102 bb)
GiveMeUP (BB): $10,000.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
4 players fold, OtB_RedBaron (SB) raises to $310, GiveMeUP (BB) 3-bets to $900, OtB_RedBaron (SB) calls $590

Flop: ($1,800) 7 A 2 (2 players)
OtB_RedBaron (SB) checks, GiveMeUP (BB) bets $538.50, OtB_RedBaron (SB) calls $538.50

Turn: ($2,877) K (2 players)
OtB_RedBaron (SB) checks, GiveMeUP (BB) bets $2,125.28, OtB_RedBaron (SB) calls $2,125.28

River: ($7,127.56) 9 (2 players)
OtB_RedBaron (SB) checks, GiveMeUP (BB) bets $6,436.22 (all-in), OtB_RedBaron (SB) calls $6,436.22

Total pot: $20,000 (Rake: $5)

Showdown:
GiveMeUP (BB) shows T J (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 18%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)

OtB_RedBaron (SB) shows T K (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 82%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%)

OtB_RedBaron (SB) wins $19,995
this is not the poker I am playing
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Old 09-16-2019, 09:45 AM   #495
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Re: *** September 2019 High Stakes Thread ***

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $50/$100 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

oSpiel888 (UTG): $28,553.37 (286 bb)
borntotilt (MP): $19,756.09 (198 bb)
MrLeeQ (CO): $16,521.35 (165 bb)
Also11 (BU): $13,107.96 (131 bb)
anonymous123789 (SB): $6,719.66 (67 bb)
GiveMeUP (BB): $11,381.88 (114 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
oSpiel888 (UTG) raises to $212, 1 fold, MrLeeQ (CO) 3-bets to $1,134, 3 players fold, oSpiel888 (UTG) calls $922

Flop: ($2,418) J 4 3 (2 players)
oSpiel888 (UTG) checks, MrLeeQ (CO) bets $796.29, oSpiel888 (UTG) calls $796.29

Turn: ($4,010.58) T (2 players)
oSpiel888 (UTG) checks, MrLeeQ (CO) bets $3,623.50, oSpiel888 (UTG) calls $3,623.50

River: ($11,257.58) A (2 players)
oSpiel888 (UTG) checks, MrLeeQ (CO) bets $10,967.56 (all-in), oSpiel888 (UTG) calls $10,967.56

Total pot: $33,192.70 (Rake: $5)

Showdown:
MrLeeQ (CO) shows T T (three of a kind, Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: <1%, Turn: 2%, River: 0%)

oSpiel888 (UTG) shows J J (three of a kind, Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: >99%, Turn: 98%, River: 100%)

oSpiel888 (UTG) wins $33,187.70
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Old 09-16-2019, 10:11 AM   #496
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Re: *** September 2019 High Stakes Thread ***

PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $200/$400 ($80 ante) - 2 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

BERRI SWEET (SB): $45,996.15 (115 bb)
Trueteller (BB): $129,889.85 (325 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($760)
BERRI SWEET (SB) raises to $1,360, Trueteller (BB) 3-bets to $4,240, BERRI SWEET (SB) calls $2,880

Flop: ($8,640) 5 7 2 (2 players)
Trueteller (BB) checks, BERRI SWEET (SB) bets $3,999, Trueteller (BB) raises to $20,634, BERRI SWEET (SB) calls $16,635

Turn: ($49,908) T (2 players)
Trueteller (BB) bets $49,905, BERRI SWEET (SB) calls $21,042.15 (all-in)

First River: ($91,992.30) T (2 players, 1 all-in)

Second River: ($91,992.30) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $91,992.30 (Rake: $3)

First Showdown: Board: 5 7 2 T T

Trueteller (BB) shows 9 A 8 A (two pair, Aces and Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 56%, Turn: 73%, River: 100%)

BERRI SWEET (SB) shows 6 8 7 6 (two pair, Tens and Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 44%, Turn: 28%, River: 0%)

Trueteller (BB) wins $45,994.65

Second Showdown: Board: 5 7 2 T 5

Trueteller (BB) shows 9 A 8 A (two pair, Aces and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 56%, Turn: 73%, River: 100%)

BERRI SWEET (SB) shows 6 8 7 6 (two pair, Sevens and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 44%, Turn: 28%, River: 0%)

Trueteller (BB) wins $45,994.65
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:07 PM   #497
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Re: *** September 2019 High Stakes Thread ***

TT owning the PLO endboss? 194k pot good one.
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:09 PM   #498
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PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $200/$400 ($80 ante) - 2 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

BERRI SWEET (SB): $97,229.65 (243 bb)
Trueteller (BB): $163,215.35 (408 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($760)
BERRI SWEET (SB) raises to $1,360, Trueteller (BB) 3-bets to $4,240, BERRI SWEET (SB) calls $2,880

Flop: ($8,640) 2 8 Q (2 players)
Trueteller (BB) bets $1,986.51, BERRI SWEET (SB) raises to $7,999, Trueteller (BB) raises to $26,475.25, BERRI SWEET (SB) calls $18,476.25

Turn: ($61,590.50) 3 (2 players)
Trueteller (BB) bets $61,587.50, BERRI SWEET (SB) calls $61,587.50

River: ($184,765.50) A (2 players)
Trueteller (BB) bets $70,832.60 (all-in), BERRI SWEET (SB) calls $4,846.90 (all-in)

Total pot: $194,459.30 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
Trueteller (BB) shows 7 Q A K (two pair, Aces and Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 53%, Flop: 47%, Turn: 63%, River: 100%)

BERRI SWEET (SB) shows 5 J T A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 47%, Flop: 53%, Turn: 38%, River: 0%)

Trueteller (BB) wins $194,456.30
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:10 PM   #499
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Re: *** September 2019 High Stakes Thread ***

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PokerStars, Omaha Pot Limit - $200/$400 ($80 ante) - 2 players
Replay this hand on Pokeit

BERRI SWEET (SB): $97,229.65 (243 bb)
Trueteller (BB): $163,215.35 (408 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($760)
BERRI SWEET (SB) raises to $1,360, Trueteller (BB) 3-bets to $4,240, BERRI SWEET (SB) calls $2,880

Flop: ($8,640) 2 8 Q (2 players)
Trueteller (BB) bets $1,986.51, BERRI SWEET (SB) raises to $7,999, Trueteller (BB) raises to $26,475.25, BERRI SWEET (SB) calls $18,476.25

Turn: ($61,590.50) 3 (2 players)
Trueteller (BB) bets $61,587.50, BERRI SWEET (SB) calls $61,587.50

River: ($184,765.50) A (2 players)
Trueteller (BB) bets $70,832.60 (all-in), BERRI SWEET (SB) calls $4,846.90 (all-in)

Total pot: $194,459.30 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
Trueteller (BB) shows 7 Q A K (two pair, Aces and Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 53%, Flop: 47%, Turn: 63%, River: 100%)

BERRI SWEET (SB) shows 5 J T A (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 47%, Flop: 53%, Turn: 38%, River: 0%)

Trueteller (BB) wins $194,456.30
pretttyyyy prrettty good

TT also started to do this 25% pot bets like LinusLove. Can someone explain the point of it in this pot? He apparently believes he has the best hand on flop. Why bet so small and let opponent draw cheap?

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Old 09-16-2019, 01:06 PM   #500
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$194k :O
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