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Not only wrong, but completely obnoxious and out of line (re: NioNio)

And while Ike's probably mostly right here, he's only sticking up for his friend.

And I think most would agree that Scott would have been screaming for a top 3 payout if he was the short stack.

Revenge of the Nerds Part 3 IMO

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09-02-2014 , 03:24 PM

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Fish Taco

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Fee - 1
Seiver - 0

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09-02-2014 , 03:26 PM

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70months

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Alternatively,

Obviously the other players are only concerned with their own self interests and would probably be singing a different tune if they were the big stack.

This is true. And it doesn't change the fact that they're wrong (on the wrong side of the argument, not wrong to be upset).

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09-02-2014 , 03:43 PM

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Every single player is looking out for himself in this spot.

It's hardly a surprise is it?

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09-02-2014 , 03:50 PM

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Scott is obviously fighting for self interest here but is completely right and no one should "blame" him here..

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09-02-2014 , 04:03 PM

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Ike, as usual, is a boss.

Of course Scott is fighting for his own self interest within the framework of the rules provided, as are Klink and Fees. Anybody who would be doing differently is taking the worst of it and probably shouldn't be playing 100k tournaments.

If he was going outside the framework of the rules to make this argument, that's a different story.

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09-02-2014 , 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 70months

Obviously Scott is only concerned with his own self interests and would probably be singing a different tune if he were a shorter stack. That doesn't change the fact that he's right. The other players have every right to be upset with the tournament officials but acting like Scott is bullying his way to an extra 70k equity is ridiculous.

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Scott is obviously fighting for self interest here but is completely right and no one should "blame" him here..

Both spot on.

+1 for the Ike Haxton fan club too. Also lol'd at Jungleman's dreamy post.

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09-02-2014 , 04:10 PM

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I should point out that matters such as how poorly the poker room handled this, the unreasonable rake especially given the delay for the stream and so on, are separate to whether Scott is right here..

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09-02-2014 , 05:05 PM

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twalf

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Siever browsing the celeb nude leaks on his phone at the table

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09-02-2014 , 05:10 PM

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Siever browsing the celeb nude leaks on his phone at the table

Probably getting hand by hand updates of hole cards. Surprised they allow cell phones. Even with a delay still valuable info. He seems to be the only one constantly on cell phone.

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09-02-2014 , 06:09 PM

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As I am watching the livestream, there is a live TV debate about Scottish independence. They are using the hashtag #Scotdecides

Not to be confused with #Scottdecides which is completely unconnected.

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09-02-2014 , 06:41 PM

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Is it considered a bubble if you get around half of your entry fees back?

I am the only one rooting for SS to get 3rd?

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09-02-2014 , 07:53 PM

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GacelSayah

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lol than seiver gets the 3rd place...

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09-02-2014 , 08:42 PM

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LOL Seiver gets 3rd place

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09-02-2014 , 09:33 PM

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LOL Seiver gets 3rd place

weird

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09-02-2014 , 09:48 PM

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Had Allen actually been watching the feed he would've noticed that Scott was playing OFC.

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09-02-2014 , 10:10 PM

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So, they make it clear that they're paying top 2 places with <= 10 and top 3 with more.

They then change this during the tournament, when it had already been clearly outlined, and Scott is somehow wrong for complaining? Am I missing something?

You guys are just assuming he is doing it for financial gain, when in fact, all money aside, he is clearly correct to complain. You guys would probably say that the short stack would be a ****** to complain too, even though it is the logically correct decision.

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09-02-2014 , 11:21 PM

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Congrats Fees

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09-02-2014 , 11:29 PM

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Kessler, you are truly a piece of garbage for saying something like this. Just because you are a scumbag doesn't make everyone else a scumbag. No wonder you vouched for PSUmike...you think that's normal behavior.

They're allowed to get updates they all have the same access to information.

This is srandardly done on all live stream events at the wsop.

Where did I say he was doing anything wrong?

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09-02-2014 , 11:49 PM

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Everyone gets so personal and aggressive nowadays. Relax people.

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09-03-2014 , 01:05 AM

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changing structure after it is set is lol. SS got third?? thats funny

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09-03-2014 , 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2

changing structure after it is set is lol. SS got third?? thats funny

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Poker is dead??

It sure is.

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09-03-2014 , 02:51 AM

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Of course Scott is fighting for his own self interest within the framework of the rules provided, as are Klink and Fees. Anybody who would be doing differently is taking the worst of it and probably shouldn't be playing 100k tournaments.

Some time before poker my mind sport was debate. If $100K tournaments are going to be so badly run that debate is going to be an essential poker skill then maybe I should be offering coaching.

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