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03-09-2011 , 05:31 PM
http://www.pokerstatic.com/hot-seat/...ith-joe-sebok/

Haven't listened yet so no cliffs, but starts off talking about travis's DD interview.
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03-09-2011 , 05:46 PM
"it'd be nice if the story just went away"

how can someone who says they are actively searching for the truth say that?
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03-09-2011 , 06:06 PM
Sebok=Prahlad=Moneybitches
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03-09-2011 , 06:16 PM
I'm not a chronic Seebok hater, but just STFU already. Another interview w/ no info or progress. About 2/3 of the way thru he says that he's been focusing on marketing and hasn't really thought about the scandal in a year or so. He seems to have been pretty ineffective regarding the scandal investigation, hand histories, etc. He should stop talking because he is saying NOTHING.
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03-09-2011 , 06:34 PM
joe sebok is a liar and it would be difficult to have any less respect for him. on a side note, he is also a douche
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03-09-2011 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by snagglepuss
joe sebok is a liar and it would be difficult to have any less respect for him. on a side note, he is also a douche
Ok a s a mega lurker coming out to ask whats this avatar mean cos it kicks arse lol

On topic- FU UB and duke and Hellmuth, just because you have gone doesnt mean you never supported the bad guys.
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03-09-2011 , 06:45 PM
boring and almost no content, Nick Rainey his interviews were more entertaining .
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03-09-2011 , 06:50 PM
Sebok is on UB's side. He works for them, he takes their money, and most importantly, he believes that those above him tell him the truth.

With this in mind, people should stop interviewing Joe about this stuff. No new info will come of it, because all Joe has is hearsay anyway. He is not on "our" side, he is not interested in the truth, he is interested in this stuff going away, and for people to think there's an old, evil UB and a new, open, clean and sparkly UB.

There is no old or new UB. Its the same company, they still lie and distort at every opportunity (they're big on obfuscation, if you haven't noticed), and we're not going to be getting anything useful from Joe while UB's paying his bills.

Less Sebok, more Haley/Mookman/Rollo/Russ/Travis/anyone else. Sebok cannot and will not be helpful.
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03-09-2011 , 07:06 PM
At some point in the interview, he acknowledges that the current incarnation of the company tried to cover the cheating up at first. Obviously we all know that, but is that a new admission?
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03-09-2011 , 07:24 PM
He's a sellout representing the most shady site of all. Why anybody would even listen to him is beyond me.
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03-09-2011 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahSD
At some point in the interview, he acknowledges that the current incarnation of the company tried to cover the cheating up at first. Obviously we all know that, but is that a new admission?
He has said it before. That Paul made a mistake at first then quickly learned from it and started to no longer protect the 'old UBers'. If Joe believes that fine, keep saying it. I wish someone would then followup and ask him why Paul did the exact same thing with the AP scandal and even go so far as letting Scott Tom off in return for unneeded 'co-operation' Did he really need to learn that lesson twice in such a short period of time.
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03-09-2011 , 08:04 PM
started watching this and had to stop. lol ub
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03-09-2011 , 08:09 PM
Whoever started this stupid thread should be punished.

Last edited by gregorio; 03-09-2011 at 08:40 PM. Reason: I have to read NVG. That's punishment enough
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03-09-2011 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Cursed Diamonds
Sebok is on UB's side. He works for them, he takes their money, and most importantly, he believes that those above him tell him the truth.

With this in mind, people should stop interviewing Joe about this stuff. No new info will come of it, because all Joe has is hearsay anyway. He is not on "our" side, he is not interested in the truth, he is interested in this stuff going away, and for people to think there's an old, evil UB and a new, open, clean and sparkly UB.

There is no old or new UB. Its the same company, they still lie and distort at every opportunity (they're big on obfuscation, if you haven't noticed), and we're not going to be getting anything useful from Joe while UB's paying his bills.

Less Sebok, more Haley/Mookman/Rollo/Russ/Travis/anyone else. Sebok cannot and will not be helpful.
This!

Sebok is irrelevant - a broken record. (you kids know what a broken record is? )

Advice to all podcasts, poker journalists, media people etc.:
PLEASE STOP INTERVIEWING JOE SEBOK! Try to get Travis back on the air to divulge more. Try to get Paul Leggett to talk. At least we can catch him being elusive or just plain lying about stuff. If you need to interview Sebok, just ask him one question: If your boss Paul Leggett has nothing to hide why won't he do interviews?
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03-10-2011 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by snagglepuss
joe sebok is a liar and it would be difficult to have any less respect for him. on a side note, he is also a douche
This. He is the king of douches.

Last edited by J_V; 03-10-2011 at 12:08 AM.
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03-10-2011 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rndm
"it'd be nice if the story just went away"

how can someone who says they are actively searching for the truth say that?
This is just abysmal. Any paid pro on the payroll should get the Russ Hamilton treatment at every live event, just constantly make them as uncomfortable as possible.
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03-10-2011 , 12:34 AM
time for media to start making joe irrelevant wrt this? it's just as easy to call him names without giving him a voice.
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03-10-2011 , 01:17 AM
the more i hear about him, the more i realize how irrelevant he is with everything...he just sidetracks things.

he wasn't there when the cheating occurred, therefore, i couldn't care less what he says. no one really should. **** him...let's spend our time digging for evidence, not talking about some shill who wasn't there when the scandal happened and who has bills to pay through his words.
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03-10-2011 , 01:32 AM
yaknow im not positive but im starting to think joe sebok doesnt actually care about interenet players and took the ub job for the money.

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nnaaaah that cant be he makes so much money from poker.... wait ummm..... well he has pokerroad thats doing alot recen.....uhhhh...... his step dad is barry greenstien?

i mean he has to care about internet players he loves us right? he never said anything against internet players/poker before he got signed...

all seriousness he just wanted a good excuse to take the only deal he could get and he sold it well. he hasnt helped and he isnt going to hes just taking the paychecks just like prahlad but atleast hes honest about it. sebok could give a damn about some cheated internet players or else he would be honest about whats going on ... which is nothing they just want it to be forgotten and not brought up.
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03-10-2011 , 01:35 AM
amazing that barryg doesn't have his foot as far as he can up sebok's ass for being such a lying douche.
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03-10-2011 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rndm
"it'd be nice if the story just went away"

how can someone who says they are actively searching for the truth say that?
****** nailed it on the first response done deal gg sebok=sold. also looool at sebok saying its not weird that the owner of ub tried to pay someone to cover up cheating, comeon man you cant be that dumb please dont act like we are.
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03-10-2011 , 01:37 AM
I think its time we all just stop talking about Sebok. He may be a good person in his personal life, but in his public figure/poker playing life he is extremely dishonest, shady, and scummy. I wish money didn't control people as much as it does, but there is nothing we can do to change that.
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03-10-2011 , 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rndm
"it'd be nice if the story just went away"

how can someone who says they are actively searching for the truth say that?
What I find weird about Sebok is that he claims to be a professional poker player. Shouldn't you be winning money in said profession to justify the title? NHL hall of famer, Jean Béliveau, is now paid roughly 500k a year to be the Montreal Canadiens ambassador. When he is introduced, it says "ex NHLer, now ambassador for the Canadiens"

Sebok, despite having plenty of ressources and an unlimited access to some of the greatest poker minds, was never able to turn a profit consistently playing poker. When was his last donkament score? The way he talks about strategy, I'd be shocked if he was savy enough to be a winning cash game player unless he shorstacks like a rat(wait scratch that, he doesn't know that you can resteal).

Your twitter bio also states: "former television cohost of poker2nite on versus"

Therefore, it shows me that you are able to differentiate what used to be from what actually is.

Former professional poker player(variance_lol) Sounds much better no?

P.S. Joe's wish would be that one of the biggest online poker scandal went away. Tells you a lot about the man's character. If the scandal was forgotten, the disillusion would be much easier to live with,right Joe...
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03-10-2011 , 04:13 AM
"They made some big mistakes lying about the scandal..and they're sorry"

Thats why they don't make transparant who the owners are.

They're really really sorry....
Spoiler:
that they didnt steal more.
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03-10-2011 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by NoahSD
At some point in the interview, he acknowledges that the current incarnation of the company tried to cover the cheating up at first. Obviously we all know that, but is that a new admission?
No, he's been saying/admitting that since he signed up, writing it off as a stupid mistake in a difficult and unfamiliar situation for the "new management".

Can't be bothered to dig them out, but I'm fairly sure he said this in the pokerroad radio talks/interviews he did right after signing up and I also think he said so in the 2+2 Pokercast interview he did.
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