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02-20-2015 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bylaw
There are whole threads celebrating all the shady things Micon has done.
WHOLE threads!? OMG! and no one on 2+2 has ever been vindictive and posted **** that wasn't true/overblown stuff that they didn't fully understand!!!
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02-20-2015 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sketchy1
WHOLE threads!? OMG! and no one on 2+2 has ever been vindictive and posted **** that wasn't true/overblown stuff that they didn't fully understand!!!
99% of those shady people aren't currently in charge of poker websites
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02-20-2015 , 10:07 PM
Can we get some more speculation on the following topics:

- why SWC is shutting down, specifically:
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several events occurred related to operational security that we consider to indicate SealsWithClubs now operates in a perpetual state of jeopardy.
- what makes Micon thinks it's a good idea to continue on with this while the rest of SWC ownership thinks it's time to pack it in?
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02-20-2015 , 10:13 PM
Could be anything.

Maybe the other partners want to do something else with their lives.

Maybe they weren't making money.

Maybe they were getting sweated by the law.

Maybe the security was compromised and they knew they couldn't afford to do it right.

Maybe Micon bought them out because he wanted total control.

etc.
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02-20-2015 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cakewalk
Can we get some more speculation on the following topics:

- why SWC is shutting down, specifically:
perhaps because they received an offer to star in part 2 of anal hardcore xxx video produced by the doj that they would have been unable to refuse unless they stopped running the site.
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- what makes Micon thinks it's a good idea to continue on with this while the rest of SWC ownership thinks it's time to pack it in?
perhaps they have jobs in the US that they would rather keep than get indicted by the doj. micon, having no job and being an eternal wanderer, decided to move to antigua to live out his dreams.
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02-20-2015 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
Maybe they were getting sweated by the law.


Maybe Micon bought them out because he wanted total control.
First is my guess

Why would they not just say so if second were true?
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02-20-2015 , 10:36 PM
So does this pretty much mean he's not coming back to the us?
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02-20-2015 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Banned4lyfe
So does this pretty much mean he's not coming back to the us?
That might require a long answer.

Not sure what the violation might be. As far as I know he did not violate the UIGEA. Probably no bank fraud. Not sure about the FinCEN Bitcoin opinion. Tax laws are a possibility.

Obstruction of Sheldon Adelson?
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02-20-2015 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ibetappingdatglASS
If you withdraw from swc directly to coinbase youre gonna have a bad day.


why was/is this ?
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02-20-2015 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ZenForest
why was/is this ?
because gambling laws.
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02-20-2015 , 11:12 PM
Any chance to retrieve the password to an old account somehow?
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02-20-2015 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ZenForest
why was/is this ?
Coinbase bans accounts that uses their service for gambling purposes.
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02-21-2015 , 12:14 AM
Just received my cashout in <2 hours going directly through Coinbase *shrug*
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02-21-2015 , 01:06 AM
Me too, worked with no issues and haven't heard anything from Coinbase about it (at this point at least)
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02-21-2015 , 10:26 AM
is it stupid that i had no idea this site had anything going on? i thought it was a novelty like pkr or something.
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02-21-2015 , 11:30 AM
Too bad ACR stays open and this site goes down, Seems li seals with clubs can handloe bitcoin transaction much better than ACR, who receive your bitcoin deposit, mess it up and then do nothing to make it right
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02-21-2015 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus
Should maybe wait to see how this plays out. Seems something unethical was going on for the site to have to shutdown in such a quick manner.
I cashed out my funds with no issues using the form on their webpage. They're giving people notice to withdraw their rolls. I don't see what the problem is so far. If evidence comes forth something was shady then sure, but there is no such evidence at this stage.
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02-21-2015 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by invictus-1
perhaps because they received an offer to star in part 2 of anal hardcore xxx video produced by the doj that they would have been unable to refuse unless they stopped running the site.

perhaps they have jobs in the US that they would rather keep than get indicted by the doj. micon, having no job and being an eternal wanderer, decided to move to antigua to live out his dreams.
I have no info but I suspect this is the most likely thing, especially with Micon moving to Antigua to effectively reopen the site. I assume the other partners wanted out and shut it down to comply with some sort of legal thing that they would be forced to comply with if they stayed in the US. No idea though just speculation.
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02-21-2015 , 01:18 PM
I cashed out from the webpage with no issues. was very fast.
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02-21-2015 , 02:19 PM
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02-21-2015 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by invictus-1
perhaps because they received an offer to star in part 2 of anal hardcore xxx video produced by the doj that they would have been unable to refuse unless they stopped running the site.

perhaps they have jobs in the US that they would rather keep than get indicted by the doj. micon, having no job and being an eternal wanderer, decided to move to antigua to live out his dreams.

The way I look at it is this. If you work for one of the crooked government agencies to enforce their BS agenda, ask yourself "Do I really want to risk my physical well being and end up permanently in the hospital or worse whether we get the supposed bad guy or not?" Some people aren't married with other responsibilities if ya know what Im sayin.

Little guy in america today just keeps getting pushed and can't even make a little extra money for himself. Sure there are live options but that's not the point here anyway.

Not affiliated with any of these guys in anyway and won't be posting in forums anymore; although if I wanted to I would. No threats, I'd just say its more like a promise
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02-21-2015 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Grond
if ya know what Im sayin.
not a clue
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02-21-2015 , 03:05 PM
I used the form on the sealswithclubs.eu site to request my cashout last night. It's ~18 hours later and I haven't received my balance. Should I be concerned? Should I fill out the form again? After I filled out the form it said my withdrawal request was received or whatever, so it's not like I didn't fill it out properly... Also, I use MultiBit for my wallet, not Coinbase, so it's not like it was blocked beause it's gambling related or something. I didn't have a huge balance or anything but obv I want my money, so I'm just wondering if there's something I should do or if I should just keep waiting...
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02-21-2015 , 03:16 PM
Just tried filling out the form again and saw this.

I think this is pretty much what it said the first time I filled out the form.
Does this mean they've already "paid" out my balance but I didn't receive it? Or does it mean they've just sent it and I should receive it soon? Help please, I'm pretty much a noob at bitcoin.
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02-21-2015 , 03:34 PM
that doesn't look good, what is check. Are you sure you entered your wallet address correctly?

I filled out form last night at 1:30am and received it in my wallet about 10 minutes ago, so took about 12 hours.
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