you were talking with a few of your buddies during a break in the 330 and I came over to say hi and I playfully pulled your backpack that you were wearing. You turned around, gave me a look from hell, muttered something about not to touch your backpack and proceeded to continue talking.

Typical friendly Joe

Wow - lots of effort put into a post to somehow defend Ryan? Ryan's actions are completely separate from anything else and he should simply be judged on his actions, not what you, I or Phil Hellmuth do. Trying to stretch your defense like this is not a healthy way to live. I hear it all of the time i.e. "Be happy that you live in America because country X has it worse." Just because you can't do something in one place doesn't justify actions in another.

#butfreedom

Isn't it high time that casinos and card rooms stopped allowing this kind of behavior? Why should the rest of us have to suffer from it? Why should brats be allowed to use up tournament time of other players, thus costing those other players potential EV?

Kudos to Parx for taking this action! Hopefully it will set a precedent to be followed by others.

Thank you Matt! And Parx!! What a truly class act, and hopefully an example for others to follow. I wish that all poker rooms took this attitude!!

Lee

I do hope that this post as done as sarcasm. Phil Hellmuth should have been thrown out of poker years and years ago for all of the abuse he has heaped on others. Not to mention the ill-gotten gains from Ultimate Bet, the hand(s?) he "won" while showing down second best, etc.

I wouldn't trust him for a moment.

Sadly, others see him on TV and really do think that this is proper behavior. It wasn't then, and shouldn't be now. Isn't it high time that poker became better, more honorable, friendlier? Sure, we're out to win each other's money - that's what poker is about. But why do some folk have to be the class bully, or temper-tantrum throwing 2 year old, about it?

Lee

Defend Ryan? That's what you read into my post? Others had mentioned that Hellmuth gets away with stuff all the time, like he's protected because he's good for tv. I agree with the sentiment that rules are not the same for all. Hellmuth was rightfully given a one orbit penalty for acting like a dick, woohoo, finally he gets some punishment. Only for them to back down like pussies and rescind the penalty.

Do I think Ryan should have been DQ'd? Yes I do, I have no problem with the decision at all. He needs to work on himself harder and longer than he did in late 2012.

Do I think Hellmuth's penalty should have stood? Absolutely. It was ludicrous that it didn't.

zero chance this thread didn't turn into Hellmuth bash

As being the person that brought up Hellmuth I was in no way trying to defend or justify RE's actions. I was just bringing up the point that rules are enforced based upon who you are. Hellmuth is just the first person that comes to mind when thinking of people that take it too far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwjfi8bPdOY

I believe that is the hand in question about the 2008. This behavior is atrocious and he should be embarrassed by it. Instead he get's away with it because of who he is and people just accept it.

Or how about when he get's outplayed and calls the guy a moron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRjVF9NAZpo

My problem is this kind of stuff happens daily in card rooms. People get special treatment because of them being a reg or having lots of money. I see guys get wasted drunk and completely disrespect the game and players only to have nothing done to them because the floor won't say anything to them. I saw a guy slap a guy in the face and nothing was done because he was a reg.

Why do people just sit on the side and not say anything? Grow some balls and speak up.

You totally missed the "Helmuth" point.

They are bashing the favoritism and treatment of celeb players vs regs. If Helmuth's behaviour wasn't tolerated all these years by his fanboy tournament directors, this wouldn't be a problem today, and this penalty would be standard.

Fair enough.

I'm glad Parx/Matt acted as they did. I doubt Ryan will learn from this but that's his problem.

Speaking of problems, in this tl;dr blog re: Amanda Musimeci, he calls her a "world-class" player.

I have played w Amanda. I am likely not qualified to determine if she's "world class" as he states. Is he qualified to make that statement? Is she is truly "world class" ? Would a panel of experts agree that she's as good as they come?

just the fact that shes got T&A would make her world class to some people

Welcome to earth

its really annoying how sensitive everyone is. i dont understand how saying you would blow torch the place(lol) is worse than crumpling the cards. crumpling the cards actually stops the table from playing for a short while.

neither should be tolerated and both deserve DQ imo

I see someone approximate Phil Hellmuth's behavior in damn near every tournament I play. I have never seen someone do what Ryan Eriquezzo did in destroying casino property and throwing it across the room, winging chips across the table (again potentially risking tourney integrity if he whips his chips into an area with another player's stack, commingling them), calling a dealer a fat mf'er and threatening staff. That is light years worse than telling someone he doesn't know how to spell poker, or calling them a Northern European idiot, or saying "honey, the maniac put all the money in with two sevens".

NH

Favorite Hellmuth rant "you can't even spell poker"

i don't remember this at all. but don't touch my **** i guess.

I'm assuming you spoke up when the reg slapped another player in the face...

I bet you thought I didn't but guess what



If its just two randoms I'll stay out of it but if it's someone I know I have no problem telling them to stop just as I would expect someone to do the same to me.

I'm glad this donk got dq'd. Amazing how many poker players think they're better than staff and berate them quite often. News flash, you're a busto staked poker player.

Poorly written. I didn't mean that players should be treated differently, but that as a rec fish I expect worse punishment for that behavior and would expect better from a pro.

I wouldn't have a problem if pros were censured by a Player Association type body for behaviour that non pros or association members got away with within a code of conduct. Kind of like the unwritten rule of tapping the tank or coaching at the table.

Wow that was some garbage from Ryan in that article. Amazing that some people actually buy this sort of self-actualization style of writing as an excuse for morally bankrupt behaviour.

Just another frustrated tourney player, frustrated that his marginally-better-than-the-fish skill level didn't luckbox him into a win. #loltourneyplayers

In most of Ryan's tweets he seemed intent on letting everyone know that the pot was very big. This really speaks to how little he understands that his behavior is totally unacceptable, ESPECIALLY for someone who plays poker for a living. I met Ryan once and he was really funny and seemed like a good guy, but this incident and how he reacted to it is troubling and I really hope that he finds a way to get his behavior under control some day.

Phil Hellmuth got his ass kicked by Sam Grizzle once.