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this. combotronics says quad 8s is a lolshove.

This.

reading comprehension really isn't your strong suit is it? The word 'assuming' was key in my statement. An amateur could get just as "excited" on the turn with nut flush and sevens full so I don't agree at all with any folding rationale here, nor am I suggesting lol-control either, what I was saying is that if he was in fact 100% sure on the turn then why even bet the river?

For you I'll try to keep it simple in the future: I was calling Bull**** on his soulread story

I guess we wait till november TV coverage to find out what he had?

I guess $1,000,000 tournaments are the stakes where people finally start respecting your raises.

Ok i got you the first time. Obviously he was not sure, he might have thought about it and thought to himself ok if he shoves i am folding, which is ******ed anyway.


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Doing a bit too much of respect imo. I watched a bit last night and Trickett and Esfandiari were raising with air all the time and people folding AQ and pocket pairs with less than 10 BBs.

standard fold.... lol you ppl crack me up.

Morgan didn't flat out say 'I had the SF', but...

http://twitter.com/GaryWise1/status/219890605197770754

Fairly strongly implies he had it, IMO.

yeah he made the right fold......cuz he beated me!


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beat beaten beating wtv

Yeah, I did think it could be interpreted as 'He made the right fold [for me]...' too, but I'm not really interested in trying to figure it out, so I'll just go with 'simple' and the implication he makes at having it, because it really doesn't matter a bit to me whether he did or not.

I think from what I've read and heard about how the hand went down it's likely he had it, but not a given.

i bet he slammed that **** so hard like he was the only player in the world that could make that lay down.

He might just be.

Morgan said he will never tell someone what he had, because of respect to Smirnov. That looks like he didn't have the straight flush.

Sometimes people are nice. Especially rich amateurs. I might show SF to a genius Quads-Laydown.

the reality is even it was right fold given the other player had T9SS its still a horrible fold. You cant fold in that spot 3 possible full houses + nut flush i know its a crazy play shvove that river with flush as board paired but wasnt he playing against rather weak player? At least for me it was a horrible play.

Reading this thread not many have thought it was possible that it was actually the russian who missread the board. Is it possible he thought the board was something like KJ877? when he folded did he say right away iam going to fold quads here? It just seems so crazy and he might have figured it out right away he folded his 88 face upp and didnt want to admit he saw the board wrong.

That's definitely possible

I don't recall if it was mentioned, but how long did this guy tank before finding a fold?

It just boggles the mind how many people are suggesting that in a $1m tournament, players are misreading the board. Like one poster suggested that Morgan had QsTs and misread the board. Why does it seem more plausible that Morgan had a hand just as unlikely as Ts9s *and* that he misread the board? Isn't it far more likely to be true that he had Ts9s and read the board correctly? And to suggest Smirnov misread the board... he's not folding bottom boat face up here, because that's just a standard fold in that spot.

You'd think there was some epidemic of misreading hands and boards in $1 million buy-in tournaments, judging by this thread. As if people aren't going to check the table and their cards a couple of times before putting every last chip in the middle.

^ This

And talking about the amateurs in this one like they can't play a bit seems odd. This wasn't the $100 BI tourney at the local casino. They could buy in to the ME for the next 100 years with the BI from this tourney.

My guess is the business people who entered put a bit of study into the game and didn't just 'throw $Mil away' for fun, because 'throwing money away' isn't what the business people in an event like this do.

IOW: Amateur in this tourney doesn't mean the guy at the local casino who drops $100 once a month in the weekly tourney and probably only plays 20 times a year, or even the guy who plays 2 or 3 days a week, breaks even or only plays at a slight loss, has a day job and enjoys taking a vacation to play in the WSOP.

Guy said he'd been studying and working on his game to play in this tourney, and I think it's reasonable most of the other 'amateurs' did exactly the same thing, because if they have the resources for the BI, they have the resources to play and work on their game as much as they feel like, unlike many of the other events where there are almost certainly amateurs who can't afford make that type of investment.

Amateur in the One Drop =/= Amateur in Other Events

Moreover, why do we keep making general statements about amateurs when we have so much information about Morgan's game...

No money in MTTs, everyone is solid.

Seriously though ridiculous(ly good?) fold.