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Do you mean the dealer og the elderly looking guy with a sun cap? The latter is Bobby Baldwin, former CEO of MGM resorts and former professional poker player

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=14

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and who is Japanese guy?

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=184234

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11-04-2018 , 12:59 PM

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other than the noosebleed tony G pots, most interesting thing to me is John Cynn sitting the game.

From coverage on ESPN he seemed to have more sense than to bink a single MTT (albeit the BEST one to bink) and jump into one of the largest and swingy live cash games in the world.

Assuming he had all of himself, after taxes he netted 5-6M ??

What was the buyin for this game?

Anyone know how he did ?

Yea Cynn is the by far most surprising person to see at that table. Like, it's weird that Lamb is in the game, mostly because I wouldn't expect him to be allowed, but Cynn? Very weird to see

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11-04-2018 , 01:20 PM

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yes.. after seeing pic of him at table, immediately made me think of those epic threads, where some rando binks a sunday millions, then immediately hits nosebleed cash as NVG watches him implode, hand by hand.

On ESPN coverage Cynn came across as more centered and level headed than to put that large a portion of his roll at risk.

Maybe Dyer should have won. All that money would be safely stored back in Houston.

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11-04-2018 , 01:34 PM

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Yea Cynn is the by far most surprising person to see at that table. Like, it's weird that Lamb is in the game, mostly because I wouldn't expect him to be allowed, but Cynn? Very weird to see

why? backing Cynn in that game would be a dream.

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11-04-2018 , 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Oink

I mean blonde hair young guy sitting left from Leon in black shirt looking in the camera. OOps i saw John befre obv but really didn't recognise him in this pic, my bad

edit: Ben Lamb, i thought this was some scnadi pro lol

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11-04-2018 , 01:59 PM

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why? backing Cynn in that game would be a dream.

why?

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11-04-2018 , 02:15 PM

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An exclusive seat with Tony G, Aussie Matt, and leon. not to mention a retired executive known for ending Brian Townsend's poker career. Seems like a dream seat to me, i might be wrong about that. I'm probably not wrong about Cynn being sharp, and accruing endless backing deals as a result of how he carried himself.

He mentioned crypto on cnbc. with the other supplied info it's possible he has sense about numbers and finance. Hence why he is likely backed.

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11-04-2018 , 02:18 PM

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yeah , i would never back MTT player or lower stakes cash player in any line up like that, some think that these guys are weak, its not the case, Leon and Rob are very strong players, Matt also is a good player.

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11-04-2018 , 02:20 PM

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Will there be a stream?

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11-04-2018 , 02:23 PM

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certainly all true.

I was just looking at it more from BRM.

playing a single session, in a swingy game with, with a bunch of rich degens and pots upto $2M , seems like pretty risky BRM for him.

Also would be a weird stake for someone. Does Cynn have any PLO history which would lead staker to believe he would have any edge at all in this one session?

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11-04-2018 , 02:31 PM

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Yeah that line up is so tough!

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11-04-2018 , 03:02 PM

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If it was anything like their previous game, if 20k/40k did happen it was probably 10-20bb effective, not with everyone sat with 4m plus.

Also, that photo was from earlier in the week, it's not to say that was the exact 20k/40k lineup.

I'd be very surprised if Lamb and Cyn played that high

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11-04-2018 , 03:19 PM

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I must have missed the story on Townsend and Baldwin, cliffs?

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11-04-2018 , 03:28 PM

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Sbrugby bombed a PLO river for like $2MM and Baldwin flatted him with the nuts. He wrote about it in his blog back in the day, said he was done at that moment.

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11-04-2018 , 03:29 PM

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I must have missed the story on Townsend and Baldwin, cliffs?

Career ending was an overstatement afaik - Townsend had Blockers while Baldwin was slowplaying the Nuts and the Pot did hit 7 figures if i remember correctly

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11-04-2018 , 04:25 PM

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Yeah that line up is so tough!

If you’re under rolled I’d say you’re probably an underdog vs that lineup no matter how good you are

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11-04-2018 , 04:43 PM

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If you’re under rolled I’d say you’re probably an underdog vs that lineup no matter how good you are

What do you mean by "an underdog"?

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11-04-2018 , 04:43 PM

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can't find his blog, but i thought he wrote that it was devastating because Bobby called, forcing him to show and then own his soul. 1.8MM pot. he played quite a bit more after too, total exaggeration on my part.

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"In the hand against Bobby I decided I was going to bluff right form the get go which is very bad. He was trapping and I even suspected he was but I just got caught up in the bluff. I had a lapse of judgment and it cost me. I have to give Bobby credit though he played the hand well. The hand occurred as follows. Someone limped UTG Bobby raised pot and I reraised pot with A567ds (I think; my hand doesn't matter though since I had no pair and no draw). The flop came QJT with two hearts. I fired pot of about 66K. He called and the turn came a 4 making a second flush draw in clubs. He checked again and I fired pot of about 200K. He called and the river came an off suit 9. I fired pot again for about 600K and he called with AKxx with two clubs. What can I say other than I played bad and didn't think at all during the hand. It was like I was blinded and just couldn't stop bluffing."

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So how did he fall so far, so fast? ‘I was a very good six-handed no-limit hold’em player,’ Townsend says evenly as we speak over the phone. ‘I like to think I was one of the best, but those games really dried up. When they did, I switched over to playing pot-limit Omaha. I think my PLO game is okay, but my heads-up game has a lot of leaks and I lost a lot of money in those games.’

Back in July he posted on his blog that his downswing had hit a sickening $ 3m. ‘It began the last two days of live play when I lost $1.8m and has continued online by losing another $ 1.2m,’ he said. The $ 1.8m came in a now legendary pot against Bobby Baldwin where Townsend bluffed all three streets against Baldwin’s made straight. But it was the online downswing that was to prove more significant.

The bleeding didn’t stop at $ 1.2m. Townsend, battered and bruised, took some time off and redeposited for the first time in a long while. He wired in $ 1m to his Full Tilt account and stepped back into the biggest pot-limit Omaha games. Around a month and a half later the money was gone.

‘I was playing really badly, I wasn’t focused and I wasn’t playing my A-game. In my mind it was easy money and I could make loose calls. I was very lackadaisical, I wasn’t focused and I was like “meh, whatever.”

‘I think my PLO game is really good now, but a year ago I was getting beat by better players. It has nothing to do with how I was running. I am not as good as I was at no-limit hold’em. It’s as simple as that, and I am not going to make excuses for myself.’

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11-04-2018 , 05:34 PM

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Lamb could sell unlimited action. Could probably sell action for higher stakes than the mega-millionares could even play. Pretty sure the demand would be unlimited

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11-04-2018 , 05:47 PM

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Yes that's true. I have a feeling Lamb is staked by Baldwin but I can't remember if I actually heard/read that somewhere or if it's just a suspicion I have

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11-04-2018 , 07:30 PM

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wiki says Baldwyn net worth around 29m. Is he rolled to play in this game and stake someone?

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11-04-2018 , 08:12 PM

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wiki says Baldwyn net worth around 29m. Is he rolled to play in this game and stake someone?

Wiki probably don't know ****

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11-04-2018 , 08:38 PM

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If you’re under rolled I’d say you’re probably an underdog vs that lineup no matter how good you are

The thing is that you are never under rolled in that game if you are really really good.

Why? Because your bankroll only matters to determine if you want to have 100% of your own action or 50% or 10% or 1% or 0% and get a (small) share of your winnings.

In an environment with several people who stake others for super high roller tournaments, it wouldn’t be difficult to sell action if you are a proven total crusher.

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11-04-2018 , 09:04 PM

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wiki says Baldwyn net worth around 29m. Is he rolled to play in this game and stake someone?

Baldwin has played in the very high stakes "private" game in Ivey's room at the Aria for years, wiki would have no clue as to his actual net worth outside of business unless he shared it with a reputable source. Even if he did share that information (he wouldn't, he isn't much for the media and bragging about poker) his net worth could change by millions in a matter of weeks given the games he plays in. He could literally be almost broke or worth 100m and noone outside of his closest compatriots would know imo.

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11-04-2018 , 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by madlex

20bb deep with 3-4 blinds and loose aggro players, when you hit a downswing, at some point your backers money or confidence is going to run out. It's pretty easy get stuck 50 million here. And if it goes the other way and you win 50 million to start, you'll likely be kicked out of the game.

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