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11-03-2009 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KritiKal
EuroRounders

Michel (voiceover): "If you can't find the boorish American hold'em player at the table within half an hour, you are the boorish American hold'em player."

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TITLE/CREDITS. This entire movie is in black and white, with subtitles.

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Michel (voiceover): "This game is really scummy, and well above what I can afford to play. My entire bankroll is riding on this one session going well. This is Teddy CIA's place, where they only play Pot Limit Omaha, the most sophisticated game in Europe."

- Michel knocks on the window -

Teddy CIA: "You want poker, or whore?"

Michel: "Poker. Give me three stacks of high, elitist society."

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Michel: "I raise."

Teddy CIA: "It's a position raise. I call."

- The flop comes 5-7-A, with two diamonds -

Michel: "I bet the pot."

Teddy CIA: "I raise the pot."

Michel: "I reraise the pot."

Teddy CIA: "I reraise the pot."

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel (voiceover): "I sit back and think. I have three aces - the best possible hand. I want him to think I'm debating a call, but really I'm just thinking about Monte Carlo, and whatever the **** is in Monte Carlo."

Michel: *shrugs* "Okay, well, I re-pot it, I'm all in, because I don't think you have a pair." *winks at the camera*

Teddy CIA: "Who are you winking at? It doesn't matter, I call."

Michel (voiceover): "I know before he even says it."

Teddy CIA: "I have 8-6-4-3 with two diamonds, for a wrap straight draw and a flush draw, which is a favorite over your top set."

- Turn is a King. River is a 2 which gives Teddy CIA an ace-to-five straight for the win. -

- Michel sits there, shell-shocked. -

Joey Croissant: "Come on, I'll get you a whore."

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Michel (voiceover): "Well, that sucked. Since then, I've sworn off of poker and made my living as a roadside prostitute for boorish American tourists. Hopefully, I can pay my way through law school that way. I can always find games, though. I could turn this truck onto the road and be at the Taj in 19 and a half hours."

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Michel (voiceover): "I'm here to pick my friend Worm up from prison."

- Worm walks out of prison -

Michel: "Worm! It's wonderful to see you!"

- They kiss each other passionately on the mouth -

Michel: "How was prison?"

Worm: "I was brutally sodomized on a regular basis."

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Michel: "Look...Croissant, I never told you this, but about a year ago, I was playing poker at the Casino des Atlantes, and Marcel Luske walks in. He sits down at the 50/100 pot limit game. And, I mean, the whole place stops, right? Just watching this guy play. After a while there isn't a ******ed European gambling game going, because everybody's just, you know, watching this guy."

- Joey Croissant nods -

Michel: "So you know what I did? I sat down."

Joey Croissant: "No way, you need at least 300,000 euros to sit down at a game like that. Such bad financial management is typical of a boorish American!"

- Joey Croissant and Michel laugh for twenty-six minutes -

Michel: "Right, okay, but seriously, I played for an hour, doing nothing but folding. Then I won a huge pot."

Joey Croissant: "Aces? Kings? Ace-King doublesuited? Suited aces? High connectors? Middle doublesuited connectors? Two big pair?"

Michel: "Rags."

Joey Croissant: "That's probably fine too, you're only like a 48/52 dog."

Michel: "I raised. And he came over the top of me, like I was a boorish American. I re-popped it. He potted it again. I think for like two seconds and then I re-pot it."

Joey Croissant: "Jesus ****ing Christ, how much money did you have?"

Michel: "After I bet I would quietly slide my chips back toward my stack, nobody noticed. Anyway, he thinks for a while, looks at me, checks his cards again, and he mucks. I take it down. And then he looks at me and says, 'I have to know. Did you have it?' And I said, 'I'm sorry Marcel, I can't remember.'"

Joey Croissant: "Face!"

Michel: "I know, totally. Anyway, based on that one hand, I felt confident gambling for all the money I had, at one time."

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Law Professor: "I am a Jew."

Michel: "I hate you."

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Teddy CIA: "We play, heads up, Pot Limit Omaha, 25 and 50 blinds, until one of us has it all?"

Michel: "Out of sheer curiosity, you realize you're giving up like boat loads of equity by agreeing to gamble for money that's effectively yours anyway, right? That you could just not let me play, and then kill me and take what I have?"

Teddy CIA: "I know, but I am a boorish American!"

- Michel and Teddy CIA laugh for seventy-two minutes -

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Michel (voiceover): "I pick up Ace-Ace-Jack-Ten doublesuited."

Michel: "I raise the pot."

Teddy CIA: "Very aggressive. But, I reraise the pot."

Michael (voiceover): "He's representing Ace-Ace-King-King doublesuited, the only hand better than mine. I can't call, and give him a chance to catch. I can only fold...if I believe him."

Michel: "I reraise, I'm all in."

Teddy CIA: "Take it down."

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- The flop reads 10-9-5, with two spades -

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel: "Pot. I'm all in."

Teddy CIA: "Alright, I call. What do you have?"

Michel: "Jack high flush draw and middle set."

Teddy CIA: "Wrap, with a king high flush draw."

Michel: "Boy, I sure hope my 5:4 edge holds up, otherwise I am going to die."

- Turn is an off-suit 5, giving Michel an unbeatable hand. But the river is the ace of spades anyway, because it's always the ****ing ace of spades. -

Teddy CIA: "He beat me. Pay that man his money. His silly, silly-looking European money."

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Cab Driver: "Where are you off to?"

Michel: "Monte Carlo."

Cab Driver: "Good luck."

Michel: "Shut the **** up."

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FIN
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11-04-2009 , 01:45 AM
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11-04-2009 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by blueodum
Granted that the poker playing is full of holes you can drive a truck through, but it STILL has more realistic poker scenes than any poker film made since then.
lucky you had far more realistic poker scenes. not sure if it counts though considering how terrible it was overall.
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11-04-2009 , 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jmill
This obv.

Rounders was good for its time. I think it's funny when 2ers start ripping it apart for bad betsizing or suboptimal 3bet ranges or something when it was made at a time when there wasn't anywhere near as much information to go off of. You didn't have hole card cams showing you how they play, and you certainly didn't have training sites telling you the exact play to make and the math behind every move.

FFS

I agree. Casino Royale is actually much, much worse from a poker perspective, especially considering how poker knowledge exploded in the age of internet poker. I remember actually dying of laughter when Bond lost his stack with something like nut full house against quads and his bitch moaned "you lost because of your ego". Funny thing is, they even had a "poker consultant". John Duthie.
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04-30-2011 , 12:42 AM
Favourite scene from "Rounders"!
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04-30-2011 , 01:46 AM
This is slightly OOT, but I give to you the worst poker scene ever:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/108719/fla...0,vepisode,1,0

Gotta skip to 35:00, they took down the standalone scene lol
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04-30-2011 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by kcaw
Ever since I saw this in Paul Phillips livejournal a few years ago, I crack up every time I think of or read this line.

Im lol'ing right now
QFT
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04-30-2011 , 07:00 AM
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04-30-2011 , 07:45 AM
I lol'd at the part about grandma not realizing mikey had 3/4 of the chips and telling KGB to finish him off.


some of you pricks are so internet miserable is pathetic.
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04-30-2011 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dale4Saul2Red0
Just so everyone knows Teddy had 1010 on that last hand. Top set. He thought he was pulling Mike right in for the kill. Don't believe me? I've seen the video replayed in slo motion where he mucks his hand in anger, slamming it on the table, and the 1010 can be seen!

I'm still finding it pathetic someone analyzed a poker movie to this extreme. Am I the only one on this train?
never read this whole thread before...but, uh...wat??

you watched that scene in slow motion enough to see the cards everybody knows he had (a set obv)?

and then make fun of OP's time wasting?

wat?
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04-30-2011 , 08:43 AM
I don't think John Malkovitch got the accent quite right either.
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04-30-2011 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Widespread Panic
I lol'd at the part about grandma not realizing mikey had 3/4 of the chips and telling KGB to finish him off.


some of you pricks are so internet miserable is pathetic.
i farted from laughing so hard at this part as well.........
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04-30-2011 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Harlequin99
Has anyone seen The Cincinnati Kid. That is another fairly decent movie with fairly weak poker scenes. I remember watching it and thinking, despite never having played 5 card stud, that the final hand was particularly ridiculous and nonsensical... until I read the article below - well worth a read if you have seen the film. It is like the reverse of the OP in this thread - it is trying to justify seemingly terrible plays. Open stakes helps I suppose...

http://www.cardplayer.com/cardplayer...vie-poker-hand


I don't know, admittedly the ending is fairly weak but when he calls down the mug with some weak pair in a home game and then almost gets knifed for his troubles, I thought that was a fairly good poker scene.
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04-30-2011 , 02:34 PM
I haven't seen the movie in a long time, but I though the movie ended with Teddy reinstating communism and taking over the internet poker boom.
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06-29-2011 , 11:00 AM
Watch Rounders (1998)



Definitely worth watching a few times for junkies like me.. lol
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06-29-2011 , 11:39 AM
Havent read the whole thread. Good points OP.

The one thing i never understood is why is Granma so pissed off when mike wins at the end?!??!

Mike wins - granma gets his $$
Mike loses - Granma gets no $$ but gets to give him a kicking/wack him.

Surely hed rather have the monies than inflict a beating/murder?!?!

Still good film tho.
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06-29-2011 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Ghost
Havent read the whole thread. Good points OP.

The one thing i never understood is why is Granma so pissed off when mike wins at the end?!??!

Mike wins - granma gets his $$
Mike loses - Granma gets no $$ but gets to give him a kicking/wack him.

Surely hed rather have the monies than inflict a beating/murder?!?!

Still good film tho.
I've always wanted to know this - anyone got any ideas?
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07-07-2022 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CONSPIR4CY
I've always wanted to know this - anyone got any ideas?
I think because of the way Worm treated him before he got locked up. Might have to re-watch
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07-07-2022 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CONSPIR4CY
I've always wanted to know this - anyone got any ideas?

Grama probably had a piece of KGB's action against Mike in their heads-up battle.
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07-07-2022 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by REALphysical
Grama probably had a piece of KGB's action against Mike in their heads-up battle.
Old thread but yeah he actually asks Gramma to OK the rematch so he def was financially involved in it.
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07-07-2022 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CONSPIR4CY
I've always wanted to know this - anyone got any ideas?
Always thought the whole idea was Mike would be so far in debt to KGB that he'd have to play full time under KGB, earning him money with the juice running, and Gramma having a piece of that. Suspect Gramma also had dreams of moving up in the mobster world after gifting Mike to KGB, and that is now also ruined.
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07-08-2022 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SootedPowa
Old thread but yeah he actually asks Gramma to OK the rematch so he def was financially involved in it.
Ahhh. Thanks for clearing this up
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07-09-2022 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CONSPIR4CY
I've always wanted to know this - anyone got any ideas?
To bring this up to today's speed: Grama self-identifies as a Nubian Princess and felt that the interloper, Joey Knish, was culturally appropriating her/their/there/thar heritage. And since Mike didn't sign the change.org petition to have all the underground poker rooms remove any references to white male poker players, it was Grama's inherent right to instigate violence.

Besides, it was a mostly peaceful violent outburst.
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07-09-2022 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Gino_Love
To bring this up to today's speed: Grama self-identifies as a Nubian Princess and felt that the interloper, Joey Knish, was culturally appropriating her/their/there/thar heritage. And since Mike didn't sign the change.org petition to have all the underground poker rooms remove any references to white male poker players, it was Grama's inherent right to instigate violence.

Besides, it was a mostly peaceful violent outburst.
Look at how far we've come as a society since 1998.
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07-09-2022 , 07:08 PM
Here for the necro-thread.

It will be interesting to see what people think 20 years from now. As a youth, "The Cincinnati Kid" was the poker movie for me.
When Rounders was released, it was replaced.

It's a shame, as I type this now, nothing else comes to mind as a film that would replace Rounders.
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