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Robbi's wild call with J4 vs Garrett Adelstein on Hustler Live Robbi's wild call with J4 vs Garrett Adelstein on Hustler Live
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View Poll Results: Was cheating involved?
Yes
395 45.04%
No
482 54.96%

09-30-2022 , 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by James C K
Yep she moved her water bottle and spoke a bit nervously. How anyone can deny her guilt at this stage is honestly totally beyond me.
Interestingly I'm watching the stream from last week she was on and she made a nitty river check back with a straight on the river and the water bottle wasn't on the table.

Later on the stream she bet the turn with second pair and called a check raise and was good. The bottle was on the table.

Makes you think.


Also I want to add on the second hand she made two pair on the river and called the river bet and was so slow to turn her hand over when her opponent showed the bluff. It was weird.

Last edited by kep; 09-30-2022 at 04:14 AM.
09-30-2022 , 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Couchsock
Actually it doesn’t matter two shits once or twice. Like I stated she most likely didn’t think she’d get into a spot where she had to call a shove which would make sense why she minraised as to not make it big enough to incentivize Garrett to shove. She’s playing the role of clueless but previous streams show she’s not clueless and is knowledgeable of relative hand strengths
so a device tells her she's going to win at showdown and she chooses to run it twice? are u high?
09-30-2022 , 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by kep
Interestingly I'm watching the stream from last week she was on and she made a nitty river check back with a straight on the river and the water bottle wasn't on the table.

Later on the stream she bet the turn with second pair and called a check raise and was good. The bottle was on the table.

Makes you think.
I think you and I are starting to conclude it’s most likely a device in the water bottle. I need to go back and analyze the last stream but I think you’re onto something big. She had drastically different styles
09-30-2022 , 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by smoothcriminal99
so a device tells her she's going to win at showdown and she chooses to run it twice? are u high?
Relax man I’m theorizing. There’s probably a couple dozen ways to cheat which I have no idea about. Could be a simple rfid reader which can only read the hole cards but not the full deck runout

It’s hilarious watching y’all jump down the throat of constructive group thinking. Happened with the potripper thread, happened with the ultimate bet thread and I have a feeling in the future you’ll look back and feel silly for your comments.
09-30-2022 , 04:13 AM
Her explanations/ rundown after the hand is super suspicious.

I really dont know what to make. I have met women/people like her in the past. I asssumed she wasnt cheating but her explanation after the hand makes it more suspect.

I feel like she probably has something wrong neurologically as she does seem very strange.

Wild hand.
09-30-2022 , 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Couchsock
Relax man I’m theorizing. There’s probably a couple dozen ways to cheat which I have no idea about. Could be a simple rfid reader which can only read the hole cards but not the full deck runout

It’s hilarious watching y’all jump down the throat of constructive group thinking. Happened with the potripper thread, happened with the ultimate bet thread and I have a feeling in the future you’ll look back and feel silly for your comments.
potripper had a shitload of hands where suspicious stuff happened. So did Postle. If you really care that much go through her play and analyze it. A pattern is 100 times more helpful then theorizing about how she did it. I think she's a loser on the streams though isn't she? She seemed like a pretty big whale. I didn't really watch any of the streams she played tbh though.
09-30-2022 , 04:28 AM
“Why don’t more women play?” I hear the poker community whine
09-30-2022 , 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by YoungManCoffee
If she's cheating, why on earth would you pick a flip spot that looks insane?
Because the cheating method only tells her that she is ahead.
09-30-2022 , 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kep
Interestingly I'm watching the stream from last week she was on and she made a nitty river check back with a straight on the river and the water bottle wasn't on the table.

Later on the stream she bet the turn with second pair and called a check raise and was good. The bottle was on the table.

Makes you think.


Also I want to add on the second hand she made two pair on the river and called the river bet and was so slow to turn her hand over when her opponent showed the bluff. It was weird.
you can literally see HCL dealers cut the deck before every single deal after retrieving it from the shuffler ... that makes any device based cheating infinitely more complicated
09-30-2022 , 04:44 AM
It really is going to be insanely telling how much precure she got after that hand from people speculating something was up. Some people are making it like garrett went full incel with the misogyny after that hand with harassment until she finally offered to pay back. It is also insane suspicious that out of every hand she could pick to cheat unless:

1. Cheating but didn't know his cards and only knew she had the checkmark on the river.
2. Was running out of time to cheat. Maybe whoever she was cheating with had to leave in 20 minutes and she went with that hand in total panic.

If she wasn't harassed to give the money back it makes no sense on why she offered to give it backs so fast. She gave what Garrett back 150k? She could have came into money outside of poker but how much would she have to have to just snap give him back 150k. Seems insanely likely that she torched that hand vs garrett so bad and on break had someone tell her how bad that hand looked she panicked and thought giving him back money would make things stay quiet.

How many people go from playing daily deep stacks at wsop in june to playing this exact line for 250k pot on live stream at the end off the summer. Even if she won the main event this year that cash hand would still be suspicious. Just because she played 200 mtt in june doesnt mean she took it serious but something makes no sense.
09-30-2022 , 04:48 AM
I got 10 words for you....Rui Cao for 500k with 8 high vs Tom Dwan
09-30-2022 , 04:57 AM
The whole interaction beween RIP and Garret is sus af.
09-30-2022 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by lvprof
It really is going to be insanely telling how much precure she got after that hand from people speculating something was up. Some people are making it like garrett went full incel with the misogyny after that hand with harassment until she finally offered to pay back. It is also insane suspicious that out of every hand she could pick to cheat unless:

1. Cheating but didn't know his cards and only knew she had the checkmark on the river.
2. Was running out of time to cheat. Maybe whoever she was cheating with had to leave in 20 minutes and she went with that hand in total panic.

If she wasn't harassed to give the money back it makes no sense on why she offered to give it backs so fast. She gave what Garrett back 150k? She could have came into money outside of poker but how much would she have to have to just snap give him back 150k. Seems insanely likely that she torched that hand vs garrett so bad and on break had someone tell her how bad that hand looked she panicked and thought giving him back money would make things stay quiet.

How many people go from playing daily deep stacks at wsop in june to playing this exact line for 250k pot on live stream at the end off the summer. Even if she won the main event this year that cash hand would still be suspicious. Just because she played 200 mtt in june doesnt mean she took it serious but something makes no sense.
+1 Especially last paragraph about her playing 200 daily games earlier,and now suddenly calls it off on the turn for 100 dimes in a streamed nosebleed cashgame with J4 off no draw no nothing.

It doesent make sense at all,and this just doesent happen naturally.

I agree with what Garrett tweeted:this was cheating in some form.
09-30-2022 , 05:03 AM
Robbi on joeys stream , fireworks continue
09-30-2022 , 05:08 AM
Coming around to the idea that she's just a dumb trust fund/sugar baby bimbo who literally just has no clue how bad the J high call down was and wanted to try and own Garrett in a hand.
09-30-2022 , 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by lvprof
It really is going to be insanely telling how much precure she got after that hand from people speculating something was up. Some people are making it like garrett went full incel with the misogyny after that hand with harassment until she finally offered to pay back. It is also insane suspicious that out of every hand she could pick to cheat unless:

1. Cheating but didn't know his cards and only knew she had the checkmark on the river.
2. Was running out of time to cheat. Maybe whoever she was cheating with had to leave in 20 minutes and she went with that hand in total panic.

If she wasn't harassed to give the money back it makes no sense on why she offered to give it backs so fast. She gave what Garrett back 150k? She could have came into money outside of poker but how much would she have to have to just snap give him back 150k. Seems insanely likely that she torched that hand vs garrett so bad and on break had someone tell her how bad that hand looked she panicked and thought giving him back money would make things stay quiet.

How many people go from playing daily deep stacks at wsop in june to playing this exact line for 250k pot on live stream at the end off the summer. Even if she won the main event this year that cash hand would still be suspicious. Just because she played 200 mtt in june doesnt mean she took it serious but something makes no sense.
So how did the person relaying information to her know that they were now heads up?
09-30-2022 , 05:25 AM
Has there been any commentary on how poorly HCL game organizers handled this?

How do you end up in a scenario where a rich, attractive, female member of your high stakes game is taken aside by the absolute crusher of your games + other male staff and then returns on stream to both HAND OVER 6 figs cash to said crusher AND STILL sits back into your game ...

How do you get anywhere near that point with 0 evidence? A simple ... 'hey Garret we know this looks weird, chill out , we will investigate and in the meantime here's a ticket to the buffet we'll call with the next lineup of whales for you to slice and dice'.

The interests of the fish should always come ahead of the crushers' and by an infinite margin.
09-30-2022 , 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Duffman08
Has there been any commentary on how poorly HCL game organizers handled this?

How do you end up in a scenario where a rich, attractive, female member of your high stakes game is taken aside by the absolute crusher of your games + other male staff and then returns on stream to both HAND OVER 6 figs cash to said crusher AND STILL sits back into your game ...

How do you get anywhere near that point with 0 evidence? A simple ... 'hey Garret we know this looks weird, chill out , we will investigate and in the meantime here's a ticket to the buffet we'll call with the next lineup of whales for you to slice and dice'.

The interests of the fish should always come ahead of the crushers' and by an infinite margin.
Also, isnt it on a 3 hour delay? Like they could have literally just cut the stream.
09-30-2022 , 05:43 AM
09-30-2022 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Couchsock
I think you and I are starting to conclude it’s most likely a device in the water bottle. I need to go back and analyze the last stream but I think you’re onto something big. She had drastically different styles
Garret said to her at some point that her playing style had changed drastically. So, I think that Garret had already some suspicions about her before the J4 hand, and that hand confirmed his suspicions.
09-30-2022 , 05:47 AM
Something to consider as she's talking about getting backed on the bigger games.

She played like scared money on the lower stakes game last week and probably had 100% of herself. With a rich backer in higher stakes I makes more sense to be more splashy.
09-30-2022 , 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by vesku
Garret said to her at some point that her playing style had changed drastically. So, I think that Garret had already some suspicions about her before the J4 hand, and that hand confirmed his suspicions.
Yeah agreed whenever I'm suspicious that a player is both a cheater and a calling station I immediately 4 ball 8 high on paired board OOP into them ...
09-30-2022 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Backdoor Tr1ps
Something to consider as she's talking about getting backed on the bigger games.

She played like scared money on the lower stakes game last week and probably had 100% of herself. With a rich backer in higher stakes I makes more sense to be more splashy.
It makes it worse.

Imagine rich backer buys action from you in a super high stakes game, She says herself its the first time he bought action, then she proceeds to call off in this spot with him in the game watching!?

As im typing this i feel this alone makes the whole story unbelievable...
09-30-2022 , 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by vesku
Garret said to her at some point that her playing style had changed drastically. So, I think that Garret had already some suspicions about her before the J4 hand, and that hand confirmed his suspicions.
I noticed in the 50-100 game she has no water bottle. Plays very nitty straightforward and wins a small $1750. In the 200-400 game she has the water bottle on stream most if not all the game and books a 100k win. Today she has water bottle on most if not all game and books $150k. Sample size tho. We really need a deep dive into water bottle on table hands vs no water bottle on table hands
09-30-2022 , 05:57 AM
She admitted that Rip had 50% of her which is why he was pissed when she gave the money back to Garett

      
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