And then Garret asks ‘do you have a small pair’ and she says ‘you give me that much credit?’ That is not in line with the only explanation of her several that make sense which was she thought she had J3. Even tho J3 is also out of line given her play on previous streams. I feel like a lot of circumstantial evidence is building up but not enough to outright prove cheating

Did Postle call down then allow the other person to run it twice?

I saw cards from across the table one time. His cards are in her direct line of sight. Of course, he would need to do a poor job of protecting his cards and she would need very good vision. Best vision known to man? Don't think so at all. Hell, she could have just been able to tell that they were low clubs.

Yes, as someone stated there are devices that tell you which seat wins so the user may not be privy to exact hands. Maybe she assumed garret would just flat the min raise and she’d ‘shut down’ the river. And when garret shoved she got greedy/stubborn and made the potripper style call down to raise all red flags

Any HH of her whaling off high 5 or low 6 figs with no equity? If not that makes this even more suspicious af.

Lost in all of this is that Eric Persson was wearing scuba gear at the poker table

If you’re making all-in calls based on knowing your exact equity, wouldn’t running it twice be the safest play to reduce variance?

And her reaction when she wins is so matter of fact-esque. Last stream she was playing like very scared money and players were taking advantage of it. Now she’s raise/calling for 270k pot with J high and seems uninterested in garrets holdings or really the runout. Just pretty emotionless with a wry smile to it. This is all extremely suspect

Yes, she knew she was ahead on turn on showdown basis. So being greedy and stubborn to beat GMan, she could not fold getting 1.5 to 1.

But she also knew Gman is not jamming turn without a ton of equity. So she ran it twice to reduce variance.

Not when the other person has all the outs

Anyone seen her get bluffed off a winning hand?

He had about half the outs so they should be chopping most of the time. If you are cheating this is preferable to a coin flip

OK yeah good point... Still my guess for if there is foul play is that it's a similar system

I really don't care to delve into past controversies, as I am not trying to take a position against Gman. My only point is that his squeaky clean image had already come into question before this event.


edit: Past incidents have already been discussed quite a bit in these forums, most likely in the Hustler thread. I see no point in going into more detail here.

If Garrett wins one of the two rivers, he isn't claiming cheating.

Oh my god and she moves the water bottle after the garret hand for the first time all stream! The whole stream it was deliberately, almost awkwardly on the table. She gets accusations of cheating murmured and she suddenly decides to move her water bottle. That’s probably where her device was hidden. This is pretty big guys

Not sure about that, but if so he wouldn’t claim cheating 75% of the time if they run it twice rather than 50% of the time if they run it once

She was reducing her “garret claims cheating” variance!

Yep she moved her water bottle and spoke a bit nervously. How anyone can deny her guilt at this stage is honestly totally beyond me.

If you don't care to delve into past controversies, you probably shouldn't be posting that his squeaky clean image had come into question to begin with, or better yet, maybe not post in a "News, Views and Gossip" section of a public forum

she would never want to run it twice with those.

His reputation has been called into question plenty of times. Including by me over his treatment of Poker Bunny. People often accuse him of being a sociopath. Etc.

Or it's promoting her coach... and she just misread her hand in a huge pot and feels pretty dumb so doesn't want people associating her coach with that. I'm assuming they're friends and she wants to help promote him in a good way that's why she had his name on it in the first place so pretty logical she would want to do this.

If she cheated she probably saw his hand when he looked at his cards but even that isn't really cheating to the extent Garrett treated it and it's really more on Garrett unless she was doing what that guy on who was doing that before was doing.

She stared at her cards for a while immediately before calling. Why is her explanation that she thought she had a 3 being taken seriously?

Her behavior does seem extremely suspicious. Suppose she did have a device that made it possible for someone to alert her when she had the best hand. That would explain why she picked such a bad spot to do this. Clearly she doesn't have a robust understanding of poker strategy, so she just went with the first big pot where she was ahead. When Garrett shoved on her, her only thought process was to find out if she's ahead or not and to call or fold based on that info. She wasn't capable of understanding anything beyond that, like the fact that her play was completely unjustifiable to anyone who understands basic poker strategy and that the spot wasn't even that lucrative.

I don't necessarily think that's the most likely explanation, but it's hard to make sense of her actions and explanations.

Dude. A lot of circumstantial evidence is mounting. You gotta take everything into account and use a level head. It seems likely she’s starting to feel the heat and knows she can’t use the cheating device anymore tonight.

Since I knew about the accusations before I started watching I played close attention all stream to see if she moved the bottle and went into the hand knowing if she moved that bottle afterwards it was gonna sway me in the direction that she’s cheating. The water bottle was suspicious to me from hand 1 knowing there was cheating accusations. And that sealed the deal for me

Actually it doesn’t matter two shits once or twice. Like I stated she most likely didn’t think she’d get into a spot where she had to call a shove which would make sense why she minraised as to not make it big enough to incentivize Garrett to shove. She’s playing the role of clueless but previous streams show she’s not clueless and is knowledgeable of relative hand strengths