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Robbi's wild call with J4 vs Garrett Adelstein on Hustler Live Robbi's wild call with J4 vs Garrett Adelstein on Hustler Live
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View Poll Results: Was cheating involved?
Yes
395 45.04%
No
482 54.96%

09-30-2022 , 02:10 AM
ZERO chance she cheated...it's obvious she is not seasoned...she thought she had a 3 (bluff catcher) and a blocker...who knows maybe she's stoned/drunk etc...you can't tell me someone misreading their hand has never happened...for all you Gman d riders your boy has been exposed as a straight up h 0.

Robbi is a boss she has money from what I don't know but she obviously has alot or access to alot to just hand back 135k...she made g man a b1 tch making him look like a coward...you want ur money take it lmao
09-30-2022 , 02:11 AM
Daaaamn
09-30-2022 , 02:12 AM
Shaun deeb on joeys stream talking now about it
09-30-2022 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Anyone who thinks she cheated is a mouth breathing idiot.
anyone who claims they know 100% is a mouth breathing idiot
09-30-2022 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Bawookles
The guy thinks that because she gave the money back that's total proof of her guilt.

No..... it isn't. The guy just intimidated the F out of her and she didn't want to deal with it.
Yes and there is this odd quality among women recreational players that just completely lacks the cut throat attitude, seeing it almost as a social thing and anything but a cut throat game for money. She has that going on too , I think.
09-30-2022 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Anyone who thinks she cheated is a mouth breathing idiot.
I agree but as you know garrets the golden boy and it's already clear he has massive support from big section of the community
09-30-2022 , 02:21 AM
Occasionally of course you get a raising war in a hand when nobody has anything. Every once in a while you get a hand where somebody misreads their hand. And then sometimes you get both in one hand. When that happens and it's being streamed, you've got a GOAT remarkable type hand.
09-30-2022 , 02:22 AM
I think Garret made a huge misstep. Accusing someone of cheating without proof. It’s not a good look and he should have sat on it longer before making a statement.

Last edited by jmurjeff; 09-30-2022 at 02:23 AM. Reason: Misspellings
09-30-2022 , 02:24 AM
Interestingly enough, I was once cheated at a homegame and I believe they were using a system similar to what is being proposed. IE, simply knowing which seat will win at showdown and the cheater just has to make sure to not fold when given the signal.
09-30-2022 , 02:26 AM
As I love to say life always ends up getting Shakespearean on you. The dude is not The Shyt or the Golden Boy he's billed as and playing up to constantly, and the Grand Lady IS THE SHYT in a very different way. She leveled him here, or the universe leveled him, put him in his place. She has something way more real going on at the table than he does, and the universe delivered his Shakespearean moment, which he reacted to with drama ... and she leveled his game of life with hers. Absolutely fascinating.

Last edited by FellaGaga-52; 09-30-2022 at 02:31 AM.
09-30-2022 , 02:27 AM
1. At best she somehow saw his cards. If she did, what she does with that information is on her but it aint cheating. Garrett should protect his hand.
2. There is no means for her to cheat w/o the assistance of Hustler Casino Live.
3. Even if she hacked the system by what means would she have seen the cards given the lack of an earpiece, the glasses being transparent, etc.
4. Ryan ****ing Feldman himself asked Garrett what he should do on Live at the Bike when Armenian Mike was "just kidding". People looking to Garrett and having this variant of Stockholm isn't even abnormal, especially when the owner of the show has done just the same.
5. Garrett is acting like he isn't a famous player with shitloads of couch and like his word isn't treated as law.

Garrett is cringey as hell for this ****. And although I think "RIP"'s behavior is way out of line, in hindsight i'm inclined to think he's a pussy for intimidating someone into giving him the money. "I didn't ask for it" as if that means **** given the circumstances. Any other player would've been told to go **** themselves if they didn't possess the same level of clout.
09-30-2022 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TreadLightly
She just xjammed 200k into 13k pot on turn of QJ72ssxx with QQ when ryusuke turned 2p J2o and ends up hero folding
Against the guy who is known to make super light calls.
09-30-2022 , 02:31 AM
Deeb fully calling out Robbi and Rip as well omg
09-30-2022 , 02:32 AM
This is a mind-bender.

If she's cheating, why on earth would you pick a flip spot that looks insane?

On the other hand, this really is an impossible poker hand that seemingly can't ever play out this way. Her explanations and mannerisms were extremely bizarre and very suspicious to me.

It's very possible the simplest explanation is that she has the (poker) brain of a goldfish, but she has Hendon results going back to 2010. You're telling me in 12 years you didn't learn that calling off J high no draw might not be the best idea? This isn't someone who was playing for quarters at the kitchen table last week.

I think given how it went down, Garrett has the right to be shocked and flustered, but the accusations of cheating on the same night that it happened, while still in fight or flight mode, is probably not GTO.
09-30-2022 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondsOnMyNeck
Interestingly enough, I was once cheated at a homegame and I believe they were using a system similar to what is being proposed. IE, simply knowing which seat will win at showdown and the cheater just has to make sure to not fold when given the signal.
That would certainly explain it ... but I don't think that's it. One can certainly imagine if someone had that info incoming and the betting in front of them went down like that, it would be a bizarre no-win situation. You fold a sure winner in a monster pot or you follow the cheat that will be outrageously exposed. But, again, I don't think it was a cheat.

Last edited by FellaGaga-52; 09-30-2022 at 02:46 AM.
09-30-2022 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TreadLightly
Shaun deeb on joeys stream talking now about it
Listening now.

His theories are so outlandish. I've heard Obama birther theories with more credibility than what he is spewing.

"Her glasses", "Look at how the guy reacts", etc.
09-30-2022 , 02:35 AM
Can someone find hands where she calls river bets and loses?
09-30-2022 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by kep
Can someone find hands where she calls river bets and loses?
Earlier in the game Garret had a full house and she called off on the river
09-30-2022 , 02:41 AM
Deebs thinks he's some moral authority but him and Arieh few months ago accused and dragged and account that won an online bracelet event,thru the mud,simply because they had no previous history in events those stakes online.
As if people don't shot take in tournaments and cash all the time
09-30-2022 , 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by YoungManCoffee
This is a mind-bender.

If she's cheating, why on earth would you pick a flip spot that looks insane?

On the other hand, this really is an impossible poker hand that seemingly can't ever play out this way. Her explanations and mannerisms were extremely bizarre and very suspicious to me.

It's very possible the simplest explanation is that she has the (poker) brain of a goldfish, but she has Hendon results going back to 2010. You're telling me in 12 years you didn't learn that calling off J high no draw might not be the best idea? This isn't someone who was playing for quarters at the kitchen table last week.

I think given how it went down, Garrett has the right to be shocked and flustered, but the accusations of cheating on the same night that it happened, while still in fight or flight mode, is probably not GTO.
for your first point garrets theory makes sense where he thinks she has a signal she either wins the runout or is getting beeped she has the best current hand. her plan was probably to raise turn raise river (if she is cheating) that part makes complete sense. shes not told the actual runout just that she wins or currently has the best hand. so she wouldnt know if its closer to a coin flip if she has a signal telling her if shes ahead or behind, or b she knows she wins the rfa runout so she gets it in
09-30-2022 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by pimpin aint ezy
I agree but as you know garrets the golden boy and it's already clear he has massive support from big section of the community
And btw I have said a lot of nice things about Garret on this site although I also said I think he's a fake nice guy.

The entire thing is ridiculous.
Her grand cheating plan was to play weak passive poker, bleed money and then finally strike with jack high calling an all in with no draw and Garret still has half the deck? All the while folding reasonable bluff catchers as Garret has mentioned? It makes zero sense.
09-30-2022 , 02:44 AM
I don't think robbi cheated, but I think the NVGtards need to pause and re-assess after the gman tweet.

Maybe lean more into the judgement/experience of a dude who's played in the biggest live LA games for over a decade and put more weight into his feeling he got cheated. He's earned that right to have that opinion.
09-30-2022 , 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Her grand cheating plan was to play weak passive poker, bleed money and then finally strike with jack high calling an all in with no draw and Garret still has half the deck?
the cheating method could account for all cards in play including river and conclude that garret's hand would not win at showdown and buzz accordingly.

use your noodle cabron.
09-30-2022 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
I don't think robbi cheated, but I think the NVGtards need to pause and re-assess after the gman tweet.

Maybe lean more into the judgement/experience of a dude who's played in the biggest live LA games for over a decade and put more weight into his feeling he got cheated. He's earned that right to have that opinion.
You mean by running pure a large majority of his live stream career he's earned the right to cry about cheating when some donkey calls when he's bluffing with 8 high?

sure thing.
09-30-2022 , 02:47 AM
I’m about 2 hours in and she appears to be playing different this previous streams. She’s being more aggressive and doesn’t seem to be agonizing as much. Like her raising AK on that T235 board after a 3bet and double barrel is suspect based on what I’ve seen from her on previous streams. For example on last stream she was raise/folding AQ to a 3bet and playing considerably more tight/passive on all steets. Small sample size tho. And you can’t really analyze any hands post garret hand cause if she was cheating she definitely will abandon ship after the accusations,

I know nothing about live cheating devices so I have no idea how plausible it in that sense. And fwiw I think it’s more likely she’s not cheating. But if she is I’d say it’s most likely the first time she’s done it on stream

      
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