I thought someone said a few (or many) posts back that DNegs clarified on some podcast that Mizrachi was considering buying a fake vaccine card, but decided not to and instead just got vaccinated instead. But it was Failla who was selling them, and him alone. Apparantly Rob was just a potential customer who in the end decided not to buy one. At least that's what DNegs is now saying based on Rob's feedback to him, according to some podcast or something.

I think someone even suggested changing thread title because I guess it was only Failla who was selling the fake cards.

it means he didn't do a ****ing thing and people immediately assumed he did and tried to ruin him? guilty until proven innocent in woke world

At least a warning. So irritating when people do that

I would not want to risk it but they would not be able to verify everyone bc they're not all in a database, especially in the early days when they first were distributing them.

This is coming from someone who was distributing them at a local university medical department. She said it was way too hectic. they kept no records and hand wrote in the batches and dates on paper cards, no stickers

Who assumed he did it? Who cares if someone did assume that? By your metrics, we can't even discuss it until there's a trial and ultimate guilt or innocence is proven.

If you want to be mad at anyone, it's Daniel for bringing it up if it's not true.

Ah okay thanks. Sorry I haven't been keeping up with the thread. It's mostly been people arguing off-topic.

What I heard ( not from any official sources) is they will be checking every cash. Though doesn’t sounds like practical but who know with the use of technology and help from all the states health department.

He never said “it didn’t happened”

He simply said he wasn’t passing out fake vaccination card. He didn’t said he wasn’t feeling out cards or helping Will out .

This were serious allegation . Requires very clear statement.

He was praising DN , instead of being mad at him !

This is why the U.S. legal tenet of presumption of innocence until proven guilty is naively idealistic but in practicality a joke (at least for many) imho. If someone is truly innocent, most levels of society all the way up to the courts/jails still treat a presumably innocent person as guilty from the start. Personally, I think when one is arrested, then brought into a jail cell and then forced to fork over money by placing bail (if he/she can afford to even do so) is a very very crappy way of how a "presumed" innocent person is treated in the first place imo. Would you want to be treated that way if you knew you were truly innocent? Any sane person would think "of course not, no". Especially in this internet and tv age with 24 hours news cycles, society already quickly condemns guilt unofficially. Might as well be technically guilty in terms of U.S. law from the start and work from that. That is why I have no problem with European pragmatism here - guilty until proven innocent.

Uh oh. Did I commit another 2+2 sin on here? I have to go to confession now because I terribly "DIGRESSED". The plucking horror!!!!!!!!!

Not a good idea to sell those cards. Not a good idea to mention names of well-known players you think are selling them.

Also not a good idea to play in the WSOP without real vaccinations, as they may check carefully the people who cash big. That could get ugly, and even result in litigation, but better not to take a chance.

There is no talking to these people they’ve entirely lost the plot. I can read a CNN article and trust it despite 85% of CNN being CIA propagated lies, yet if some unqualified weirdo “fact checker” says “FAR RIGHT!!!!” They refuse to judge it based on merit instead of tribal opinion.

Hint for all that are here; far right and far left mean absolutely nothing any more and the actual far right barely exists anywhere around the entire world.

Agreed, thought the spoiler would hide it.

Eh, I’d be shocked if they aren’t just doing what they made GG do during WSOP and pretend to care while allowing copious amounts of people to play WSOP events with fake docs from the US that they clearly didn’t actually check over.

Daniel has been tweeting this morning and no response back to Rob, publicly anyway.

Rob just tweeted “ was handed a card as a joke on break I ripped it and threw it away. @WILLFAILLA wasn’t selling cards he only gave me one as a joke and I threw it away on break.”

Watching you all complain about Fake Covid cards is the real Joke here. You need to get over yourself. The Gov't is not your friend.

Anyone opposed to fake vaccination card and unvaccinated people is not because of the government is their friend but fake card users are enemies of civilized society.

With your arguments we should not help police to catch a criminal because police is not our friend !

In other famous words what we have to loose by letting people use fake vaccination cards .

I get it where you are coming from .

I'd ask if fish would do because Tucker

haha, good joke! Breaking federal law, spreading misinformation, and potentially enabling an unvaccinated person to infect people while playing, just a prank bro!

The vaccine skeptical wants to make this thread a referendum on the vaccine. That’s because they don’t want to focus on the issue, which is the immorality of handing out fake vaccine cards. Even if you thought the vaccine is bad, handing out a fake vaccine card would still be morally wrong, because you are purporting to be taking precautions that you have not taken.

Idc about the “big government” in this case, because I don’t consider it big government that people aren’t allowed to spit in my food, drink and drive, or smoke inside a restaurant. And of course, there have been other vaccines mandated in the past that most people have no problems with.

But even if I did have a problem with this particular vaccine, it still wouldn’t be ok for me to lie about taking the vaccine through the forging of this document. People are making risk assessments based on other people NOT doing that. The risk of catching covid in a room full of vaccinated people is minimal compared to doing it in a room of unvaccinated people.

Betraying that trust on such a serious matter has nothing to do with big government, it has to do with personal responsibility. If vaccine skeptics think it is morally justified to do this, they prove exactly why we need “big government” to impose these standards.

Edit: By the way, you can take the vaccine and still be a vaccine skeptic. This doesn’t add extra weight to your arguments. If anything your arguments seem even more convoluted, like the moms that are fully vaccinated but insist on treating their kids with homeopathy.

Even more irrelevant.

WSOP should put out a statement, or a policy position, about what happens if you are caught either using or distributing fake vaccine cards for the purposes of circumventing the vaccinated player rules.

Are you banned? Winnings withheld? Meaningless slap on the wrist? I think WSOP should set the tone right now for how serious they view the fake vaccine card shenanigans.

It’s literally on the front page of WSOP.com.

^^Yes, we all know proof is required. What happens if you’re caught with fake proof is the question.