The only reason we are talking about this is the fact that players people kinda know are involved.

As others have mentioned, get vaccinated yourself if you care so much about it. Other people cheating the system does not affect your own immunity or other vaccinated people's, so really it's whatever. Go get your fourth booster and you'll be safe, I am sure.

Fake vaccines are everywhere, get used to it. Washed up pro poker players are far from being the core of the issue, if anything, it just goes to show how widespread this issue is. If it is indeed an issue, which is debatable.

Exactly. Just like seat belts. If they work, then wear one and what do you care if other drivers are drunk, or are wearing their glasses, or have a driver's license?

agree. i don't care if i have a green light and the guy runs his red light because nobody can tell him he has to stop.

I am vaccinated and agree with you to a point, but no matter what side of the debate you are on I don't see how you can not realize that it would be better for someone in a crowd of 1,000 people to be around 0 unvaccinated people than it would be to be around 100 unvaccinated people. If someone is going into a situation where they are being told that everyone will be vaccinated, then they should be able to trust that everyone is vaccinated. People make decisions based on information like that, so they should be able to rely on that information.

In everyday situations I agree with you, but if you advertise something as being mandatory to be vaccinated then the rules are different. People that may have immune disorders and are vaccinated may feel safer to go to an event promoted as having a vaccine mandate. It is right for them to then sit next to 3 people that aren't vaccinated? Is it right for a stranger to potentially increase their chances of severe illness or death in what was supposed to be a bubble of only vaccinated people just because that stranger wants to play a tournament and is willing to lie or forge a document to do so?

Other people cheating the system affects how quickly we can go back to normal. (Or, more likely, establish the new normal.) Things would be better if everyone obeyed.

Also, being anti-vaxxer highly correlates with other disgraceful beliefs and behavior, so I am fine with punishing those people.

le sigh

I miss the days when poker wasnt only superlib dweebs.

who cares about ****ing vax cards. Get your vax, it works right?

Don't get all bent out of shape about my POV, your mRNA affected heart can't handle the stress.

We need this thread for public shaming purposes. No safe harbor for the anti vaxx lunatics whining about "freedom". This is about HEALTH, not your so called "choice" to cause everyone who did the right thing to get sick

"All so tiresome" hmm..it seems to be keeping you interested.
This is pretty serioius and if I were Wil, I would be lawyering up right about now.
(I'm sure he has already)
This is a blatant **ck you to all the people trying to do the right thing and conform to the rules and regulations of the WSOP which has gone on a limb to put this tourney on for us.
These kind on mindless measures just messes it up for the rest of us.
It's going to be a great WSOP when we weed out all the troublemakers and fools.

You gotta wonder do the wsop execs like Effel know about these allegations? What do they plan on doing about this because this is extremely serious and dangerous. Does Will know he has effectively been outed? Has anyone in poker media tried to talk to him or ask him questions? I looked at his twitter feed today and he doesn't really update it too much.

I don’t get it why anyone argue against the laws of the land or rules of organizer where they have no power to change anything.

I don’t see any of those people disregarding Notice on Poison Bottle and say let’s taste it if it is real poison ! Or Stand in front of a incoming train thinking I am just testing my instant response, I will jump of the track when train comes too close to me !

* By the way I know most of the antivaccer are very smart people outside this controversy.

Ten bucks this guy would have fervently turned in runaway slaves in the 1850s.

US has more than triple the population now than then. Pointless stat to quote in isolation as simpletons will stupidly think that means covid is more deadly and it's not even close. And dying with covid is not the same thing as dying from covid. Most people dying from covid are old, obese, and already dying. People who died from Spanish Flu were mostly fit, healthy, and in the prime of their life. Apples and oranges. And again Spanish Flu killed more than ten times as many people worldwide than covid-19.

You should be publicly shamed for being so ignorant. Mass vaccinating into a pandemic is similar to not taking all of your antibiotics when you get recommended antibiotics. What happens is the bacteria that's left over become antibiotic resistant. The same thing is happening with the virus. The vaccinated population are actually propagating a more virulent version of covid 19. That's what these breakthrough cases are. That's why vaccinated people are still getting covid. While I applaud you for doing what you think is the right thing (as did I, I'm vaccinated), you are ignorant. And shaming unvaccinated people is also ignorant and wrong. So I say to you good sir, gfy.

You know what else is illegal? Americans playing poker on the internet.

Off with their heads!

Well, here's the thing. The jabs do not have 100% efficacy. Depending on which jab a person receives, cases of breakthrough infections range from 5% to 30% or more. And breakthrough infections, while generally less dangerous than those in the unvaccinated, can still put someone in the ICU or kill them. Does the Jab vastly improve your chances of a good result? Yes. Does the jab make you 100% safe from covid? No. So if you are in regular close contact with the unvaccinated, you are in fact being exposed to potential problems even if you are fully vaccinated.

Also it is becoming clear that the jab does not bestow permanent immunity, like the jab for Mumps or Measles does; rather it seems it may only bestow temporary immunity, like a flu shot.

Furthermore, the unvaccinated harbor the virus and provide the petri dish required for the virus to evolve and mutate into more deadly forms; for instance Delta, which is far more transmissible than the variant we were dealing with 18 months ago. It takes no great intellectual leap of faith to suppose that the virus can evolve into forms that are more vaccine resistant or deadlier than current versions, if given a vast supply of unvaccinated people to incubate in.

That's right. Because if you are wearing a seatbelt you are protected from 100% of the things that might happen to you if you get hit by a drunk driver. Drunk driver runs a red light at 80mph and T-bones you on the drivers side door? No problem, you are wearing your seatbelt. Drunk truck driver rear ends you at speed in a fully loaded dump truck when you are stopped at a red light? No problem, you are wearing your seatbelt.
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If you make sure Allen Kessler knows about these allegations, he will spread it for you.

Will anybody get caught at a WSOP event with a fake Vax card AND lose a CASH ?

That is the question.

Poker isnt just super liberal dweebs, that’s just your perception because they are vocal online and social media. Antivaxxers lean towards low stakes players and people who aren’t spending time reading. They aren’t traveling to WSOP, except maybe to fire off a bullet into the millionaire maker and play some 1-2 at ballys. They probably aren’t on an Internet forum making a big stink thay they can’t go. You’re just in the wrong place. You’d probably feel more comfortable browsing Facebook memes.

Edgy take, care to offer your peer reviewed data on who plays what stakes?

Highly impossible!!

As smart unvaccinated players will not try it .

From what I read here , there will be some dumb-one will try it but dumb one will not survive to cash the tourney.

The vaccinated are actually providing the petri dish for more evolution and mutation of the covid virus. Vaccinated people give more infectious variants of covid a competitive advantage where they will thrive over weaker versions of covid-19.

The other stuff about vaccination providing a generally better outcome is true though. But to blame the unvaccinated for worse mutations of the virus is actually backwards.

Politards gotta politard.

Ya nobody dumb has ever won a donkament before. Lol

You can discuss any disagreement with any normal human.
When dog started barking or Rat started stinking , Ignore them.

Really impressed with the effort it must have taken to put this all together! A1 sir xD