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Rob Mizrachi and Will Failla Giving Out Fake Vaccine Cards Rob Mizrachi and Will Failla Giving Out Fake Vaccine Cards

09-21-2021 , 07:01 PM
Just like heroin, the FDA says that Marijuana is a schedule I narcotic that has no medical use and it is federally illegal to use, possess or distribute marijuana.

Anyone who dares to challenge the FDA on generally accepted science is a schitzo conspiracy theorist who is guilty of peddling misinformation on the internet.
09-21-2021 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
If this is confirmed true, WSOP would be within their rights to perma-ban their participation.
They definitely should. Not only are those 2 potentially making the wsop a safety risk for many people but they are breaking federal law. The wsop executive team should be made aware of this and if they aren't banned there should be many questions asked.
09-21-2021 , 07:53 PM
Is it just me or does the poker world seem hellbent on destroying itself? The world has a serious issue to deal with and half the posters here are on the side of two dgen grifters trying to make hay out of the situation. Great image to present to the public. If there is any justice these two morons will be ban from all future tournaments. They should be banned from casinos, period. If fools want to play against them in high stakes home games. . .well, that's their lookout. The news is filled everyday with folks who thought Covid was a joke and now are dead. Darwin wins again.
09-21-2021 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by legalsmile
If YOU are vaccinated, why care if a few unvaccinated sneak in? Let the unvaccinated get covid if that's their desire. Remember, some of the dealers will be unvaccinated. There's two ways to attain immunity. Either get the vaccine or get covid. I played w/o a mask for a few months when there was no mask mandate. There was always one or two at the table who freely admitted that they weren't gonna wear a mask and they weren't vaccinated. No worries for me, I was vaccinated. IF you are compromised in some way; over-weight, diabetes, etc; either wear a mask or don't go.
Didn't anyone call the floor and get the unmasked players to mask up or leave? It was against the law at the time to be unvaxed and unmasked.
09-21-2021 , 08:41 PM
AGAINST THE LAW lol
09-21-2021 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
What if the law said something else. Not that it was illegal to smoke marijiuana, but say it was legal to own another person. Would you then defend the right of the slave owner to own a slave, since after all, it is the law?

An alternative point of view was put forth by St. Augustine, that an unjust law is no law at all.
Just because something is a law doesn’t mean I have to agree with it or partake in the liberties it allows me if I am morally opposed to them. You are comparing two incomparable things. One is a restrictive law and the other is a permissive law.
09-21-2021 , 09:28 PM
Damn, you'll make a big deal out of nothing. Anyone who wants a fake vaccine card will be able to get one just about anywhere.

Have any of you screaming what a big deal this is even see a vaccine card. Anyone could make one. It's not like it's a passport or drivers license. I just had to pull mine out to double check and make sure I wasn't missing something that makes the cards secure or legit. It's just a piece of paper essentially.

You really think the WSOP cares whether or not the players are vaccinated? Don't be fooled by them requiring vaccination cards, they are just covering their asses.

Just like other casinos around the country with mask mandates unless you are vaccinated. They all know damn well tons of unvaccinated players are playing at their rooms everyday and not wearing masks. You think they care? They know the players just lie if questioned.

Get your heads out of the asses, if you think the mandates are going to make it so only vaccinated players are at WSOP your just naive. If someone is anti vax and wants to play in the WSOP they'll be able to find a card without much effort I'd imagine.
09-21-2021 , 09:31 PM
Daniel gave an update on today’s DAT Poker podcast. Will was the one selling them. Rob was just filling one out. He apparently had a change of heart after and a week later got the J&J vaccine and told Daniel he is now vaccinated and plans to play the WSOP. He was not selling any so if true possibly the thread title should be changed/updated?
09-21-2021 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by zrap
Damn, you'll make a big deal out of nothing. Anyone who wants a fake vaccine card will be able to get one just about anywhere.

Have any of you screaming what a big deal this is even see a vaccine card. Anyone could make one. It's not like it's a passport or drivers license. I just had to pull mine out to double check and make sure I wasn't missing something that makes the cards secure or legit. It's just a piece of paper essentially.

You really think the WSOP cares whether or not the players are vaccinated? Don't be fooled by them requiring vaccination cards, they are just covering their asses.

Just like other casinos around the country with mask mandates unless you are vaccinated. They all know damn well tons of unvaccinated players are playing at their rooms everyday and not wearing masks. You think they care? They know the players just lie if questioned.

Get your heads out of the asses, if you think the mandates are going to make it so only vaccinated players are at WSOP your just naive. If someone is anti vax and wants to play in the WSOP they'll be able to find a card without much effort I'd imagine.
What a terrible take. Yeah just make excuses for 2 people committing federal crimes counterfeiting government documents and then turning around and selling them. Which has potential safety risks as well. But to you nah no big deal. No wonder this country is so ****ed up.
09-21-2021 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BulltexasATM
Daniel gave an update on today’s DAT Poker podcast. Will was the one selling them. Rob was just filling one out. He apparently had a change of heart after and a week later got the J&J vaccine and told Daniel he is now vaccinated and plans to play the WSOP. He was not selling any so if true possibly the thread title should be changed/updated?
yes should be updated . tell rob to show his proof of vaccination.
09-21-2021 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by zrap
Damn, you'll make a big deal out of nothing. Anyone who wants a fake vaccine card will be able to get one just about anywhere.

Have any of you screaming what a big deal this is even see a vaccine card. Anyone could make one. It's not like it's a passport or drivers license. I just had to pull mine out to double check and make sure I wasn't missing something that makes the cards secure or legit. It's just a piece of paper essentially.

You really think the WSOP cares whether or not the players are vaccinated? Don't be fooled by them requiring vaccination cards, they are just covering their asses.

Just like other casinos around the country with mask mandates unless you are vaccinated. They all know damn well tons of unvaccinated players are playing at their rooms everyday and not wearing masks. You think they care? They know the players just lie if questioned.

Get your heads out of the asses, if you think the mandates are going to make it so only vaccinated players are at WSOP your just naive. If someone is anti vax and wants to play in the WSOP they'll be able to find a card without much effort I'd imagine.

And what should be the repercussions for those found to have violated the WSOP’s requirements?
09-21-2021 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by zrap
Damn, you'll make a big deal out of nothing. Anyone who wants a fake vaccine card will be able to get one just about anywhere.

Have any of you screaming what a big deal this is even see a vaccine card. Anyone could make one. It's not like it's a passport or drivers license. I just had to pull mine out to double check and make sure I wasn't missing something that makes the cards secure or legit. It's just a piece of paper essentially.

You really think the WSOP cares whether or not the players are vaccinated? Don't be fooled by them requiring vaccination cards, they are just covering their asses.

Just like other casinos around the country with mask mandates unless you are vaccinated. They all know damn well tons of unvaccinated players are playing at their rooms everyday and not wearing masks. You think they care? They know the players just lie if questioned.

Get your heads out of the asses, if you think the mandates are going to make it so only vaccinated players are at WSOP your just naive. If someone is anti vax and wants to play in the WSOP they'll be able to find a card without much effort I'd imagine.
Great, all fools go ahead and buy one. Make a final table and get disqualified and forfeit all your winnings. Somebody WILL rat on you (probabley Wil F.) and then the remaining players will benefit from your braindead decision.
I have heard that final table credentials will be more closely scrutinized by WSOP.
So please buy those cards!! I need all the advantage I can get!!
09-21-2021 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by EastCoastBalla
They definitely should. Not only are those 2 potentially making the wsop a safety risk for many people but they are breaking federal law. The wsop executive team should be made aware of this and if they aren't banned there should be many questions asked.
Aren't unvaxxed dealers already be making the WSOP a safety risk? According to your logic at least.
09-22-2021 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by legalsmile
If YOU are vaccinated, why care if a few unvaccinated sneak in? Let the unvaccinated get covid if that's their desire. Remember, some of the dealers will be unvaccinated. There's two ways to attain immunity. Either get the vaccine or get covid. I played w/o a mask for a few months when there was no mask mandate. There was always one or two at the table who freely admitted that they weren't gonna wear a mask and they weren't vaccinated. No worries for me, I was vaccinated. IF you are compromised in some way; over-weight, diabetes, etc; either wear a mask or don't go.
You can't be logical while discussing this subject. Tens of millions of vaccinated people are screaming that unjabbed people are trying to kill them. If the jab works, they have nothing to worry about. If the jab doesn't work, it won't help if everyone gets jabbed.
09-22-2021 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
You can't be logical while discussing this subject. Tens of millions of vaccinated people are screaming that unjabbed people are trying to kill them. If the jab works, they have nothing to worry about. If the jab doesn't work, it won't help if everyone gets jabbed.
Although I agree vaxers are sometimes more annoying than anti-vaxers, your logic is so 2020 facebook soccer mom. It's not binaary, vax 100% protection, no vax 0%.


IMO, breaking the law you think is unjust is not the way to do it. There are pros and cons to a civilized society, fighting the system will net you the same result as pissing in the wind.
09-22-2021 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by inmyrav
If this is true I don't see the difference between this and a person who is HIV+ having sex and claiming HIV-.
That's actually not a felony any more in California. You can knowingly and intentionally infect someone with HIV/AIDS in California and it's a simple misdemeanor not punishable by more than 6 months.

You'd probably get a much longer jail sentence for passing out or using a fake vax card in California than intentionally infecting someone with AIDS. Something's wrong here....

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Originally Posted by ProffesionalMalaka
Although I agree vaxers are sometimes more annoying than anti-vaxers, your logic is so 2020 facebook soccer mom. It's not binaary, vax 100% protection, no vax 0%.


IMO, breaking the law you think is unjust is not the way to do it. There are pros and cons to a civilized society, fighting the system will net you the same result as pissing in the wind.
Do you believe this in all circumstances? What about sit-ins by civil right's leaders? Is it never ok to peacefully break the law?
09-22-2021 , 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Couchsock
Either half of these posters are trolling or half the people have no idea how brainwashed they now are. Someone thinks he should be executed? Someone thinks it akin to having sex with hiv? People actually want to snitch on this guy to authorities? It’s like if they banned cigarettes and he was bootlegging them. The cigs (or lack of vaccine) is mostly just gonna affect him. Sure there’s second hand smoke. And the slight chance that an un-vaccinated person infects another vaccinated person. But for the most part their decision to not get a vaccine affects them and only them

Y’all have lost your god damn minds
Yep not getting the jab only effects the individual. Which is of course why hospitals all over North America are swamped with covid patients and more people have died then in the 1918 Flu epidemic
09-22-2021 , 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by zrap
Damn, you'll make a big deal out of nothing. Anyone who wants a fake vaccine card will be able to get one just about anywhere.

Have any of you screaming what a big deal this is even see a vaccine card. Anyone could make one. It's not like it's a passport or drivers license. I just had to pull mine out to double check and make sure I wasn't missing something that makes the cards secure or legit. It's just a piece of paper essentially.

You really think the WSOP cares whether or not the players are vaccinated? Don't be fooled by them requiring vaccination cards, they are just covering their asses.

Just like other casinos around the country with mask mandates unless you are vaccinated. They all know damn well tons of unvaccinated players are playing at their rooms everyday and not wearing masks. You think they care? They know the players just lie if questioned.

Get your heads out of the asses, if you think the mandates are going to make it so only vaccinated players are at WSOP your just naive. If someone is anti vax and wants to play in the WSOP they'll be able to find a card without much effort I'd imagine.

The information on a vaccine card is more propietary than you might think. It can be traced back to the actual person who did or did not get the shot(s) in question. If the information on the card is bogus you could be going to jail. Already in California people have been arrested for using fake vaccination cards. They were booked on a felony and their ball was set at $10,000. If the information on the card is accurate, then you better be that person and have the ID to prove it. Otherwise you might find yourself in jail as well.

Losing any possible money winnings at the WSOP and being banned for life might be the least of your problems. I wouldn't want to be Will F. right now.
09-22-2021 , 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dude45
Yep not getting the jab only effects the individual. Which is of course why hospitals all over North America are swamped with covid patients and more people have died then in the 1918 Flu epidemic
Mass vaccinating into a pandemic isn't as simple as you probably think it is. Also, over 50 million people died from the 1918 Spanish Flu. Less than 5 million have died from covid-19.

09-22-2021 , 06:10 AM
People defending this are low. I can understand vaccine skepticism on some level, but this is straight up fraud, and one of the worst kinds (falsifying medical documents over a highly contagious disease). Surely the people defending this are not being "principled" but rather "reactionary". Because lying about doing something that you believe is wrong is the opposite of principled.
09-22-2021 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by legalsmile
If YOU are vaccinated, why care if a few unvaccinated sneak in? Let the unvaccinated get covid if that's their desire. Remember, some of the dealers will be unvaccinated. There's two ways to attain immunity. Either get the vaccine or get covid. I played w/o a mask for a few months when there was no mask mandate. There was always one or two at the table who freely admitted that they weren't gonna wear a mask and they weren't vaccinated. No worries for me, I was vaccinated. IF you are compromised in some way; over-weight, diabetes, etc; either wear a mask or don't go.
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
You can't be logical while discussing this subject. Tens of millions of vaccinated people are screaming that unjabbed people are trying to kill them. If the jab works, they have nothing to worry about. If the jab doesn't work, it won't help if everyone gets jabbed.
It’s not about vaccinated or unvaccinated.

It’s not about logical or illogical.

It’s not about if the Vaccination Rules by WSOP is fair or unfair.

It’s not about if vaccination works or if unvaccinated players are threat to others.

Even all above points are valid for discussion but it’s not about that .

It’s the federal and criminal act to forge , distribute the official government document and try to pass as legit. It’s punishable by federal authority and somewhat by state authorities.

And who knows while we are talking FBI and Local authority is on their trail.

So get it over . If the said event really happened , offender must be punished. If you witnessed, it’s your legal obligation to report it.

If you did not commit but knew someone has fake documents and you don’t want to bother reporting it, that makes you also legally complicit.

Last edited by riverph7; 09-22-2021 at 09:14 AM.
09-22-2021 , 09:17 AM
Instances like these can only lead to more complications and headaches in relation to WSOP covid guidelines and enforcement.

All politics aside, how can anyone support something like this knowing that?

We just want a smooth WSOP.
09-22-2021 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dude45
Yep not getting the jab only effects the individual. Which is of course why hospitals all over North America are swamped with covid patients and more people have died then in the 1918 Flu epidemic
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
Mass vaccinating into a pandemic isn't as simple as you probably think it is. Also, over 50 million people died from the 1918 Spanish Flu. Less than 5 million have died from covid-19.
Probably referring to just the US. More Americans have now died from Covid-19 (~696k) than from the 1918 Kansas flu (~675k).
09-22-2021 , 09:46 AM
It's almost like all the other threads on this topic.

Spoiler:
[x] Mods will stop by to remind us to hit the little red triangle to report posts
[x] Graphs and numbers will be posted, mods will ignore alerts
[x] Politics will get injected, mods will stop by
[x] Someone will request that the title of thread gets changed 100xs so that the pot shot at someone's character will stand, in the most passive aggressive, yet non-defamatory fashion
[x] The first person who says the T word will get threatened with a 72 hour ban


I'll keep clicking the red triangle but this whole thread is pointless and if mods read the last 12 comments, pretty clear where this thread is headed.

For example, how can anyone definitely prove that this happened and how does the person being accused defend himself?

It's all so tiresome.
09-22-2021 , 09:53 AM
This whole thread is pointless.

The only thing I can agree with in this thread is:

If you think someone is breaking the law, you should contact law enforcement & be ready to present your evidence so that they can pursue the case.

What more needs to be discussed ITT?

      
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