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View Poll Results: If you had access to a winning bot and there was no chance you'd be caught, would you use it?
Yes
539 66.38%
No
273 33.62%

10-16-2010 , 05:07 PM
hey 2 quick questions mister bot:

1-is it because of you we are all getting some money back on Full tilt these days because they caught some accounts cheating ?

2- Are you able to do omaha bots too or is that much harder?
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10-16-2010 , 05:15 PM
Lol OP might get a business venture out of this it seems...
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10-16-2010 , 05:24 PM
everyone here is either very good or very bad at levelling
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10-16-2010 , 05:34 PM
imagine if you could be bad beated for your whole roll at any given moment.
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10-16-2010 , 05:36 PM
What games were you botting? holdem? nl? 6 max? stakes?

Oh and btw what you have done in a sanely regulated world would result in your being imprisoned and hopefully having your geeky a.ss raped and beat down. Your delusions are beyond treatable... you are absolutely certifiable and need to be commited for life.
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10-16-2010 , 05:36 PM
Doesn't really matter if the OP is a level, we should thank him for keeping this topic at the forefront of our minds. Bots are of no concern whatsoever to the sites unless they receive pressure (and evidence) from players.
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10-16-2010 , 05:45 PM
OP people have asked and you never said, what stakes do you play and do you have any graphs? Reading through your post i'm actually a little inclined to believe your story somewhat and just curious to know what game/stake you played.

Also, you said you knew FT knew you were botting but ignored it, what lead you to that conclusion?
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10-16-2010 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Which part of my post do you think is not true? He is definitely a cheater and scum. Am I wrong in thinking computer programming pays more than multi-tabnle botting micro stakes?
I don't necessarily believe he's made 220K from botting, but if he had, it'd be much more than an average programming position, say over 4 years even. Programmers are not very revered or highly paid unless you're coding for your own startup.


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Have you missed the hundreds of **** you ptr for datamining threads? Or the hate on Townsend for buying hand histories? Who here is supporting datamining? Botting is obviously worse, but both are cheating.
No I haven't missed them, and you're right to some extent. But my impression is that the percentage of the poker community that actively does not use PTR, ie boycotts it, is very small. This is an admission of it acceptability. And I don't think botting is obviously worse. Compared to using PTR to look at someone's winrate, yes, but like I said before, if I were just concerned about my winrate, I'd rather play vs. a bot than a Human with 10k hands on me.
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10-16-2010 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by zeko1985
I beleive that botting is a legit form of poker.
Are you ****ing kidding me
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10-16-2010 , 06:03 PM
Is this a DJDanny gimmick account?
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10-16-2010 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveNow
imagine if you could be bad beated for your whole roll at any given moment.
Sounds like the title of a book:

Imagine If You Could Be Beated for Your Whole Roll at any Given Moment: The Jean Robert Bellande Story
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10-16-2010 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by zeko1985
Anyway, I put A LOT of time into created bots. I have successul bots on fulltilt and ipoker. I beleive that botting is a legit form of poker. .
Nope.
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10-16-2010 , 06:11 PM
ban + jail.
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10-16-2010 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nonprofitgambler
OP people have asked and you never said, what stakes do you play and do you have any graphs? Reading through your post i'm actually a little inclined to believe your story somewhat and just curious to know what game/stake you played.

Also, you said you knew FT knew you were botting but ignored it, what lead you to that conclusion?
I still am talking to fulltilt about my BR. I will hold off until thats finished. To be honest I dont know if I will give out these kind of details as I am hoping to be up and running again soon on FT.

Fulltilt must have known I was botting for some time. Either I am a bot or I am capable of unhuman feats. By the way, I can run bots on ipoker 24 hours a day. I was always more discreet on fulltilt but became a little bit slack to be honest.
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10-16-2010 , 06:27 PM
Let me ask all you bashing me a simple question.

If I gave you a working bot, that you could run on fulltilt and make money for nothing......consequence free, would you do it?.
Now slip out of your high and mighty honourable role for a second and answer the question honourably as if none of your internet friends were around to judge you.

OF COURSE YOU WOULD DO IT. All the hate isnt coming from your disgust at botting and your high morals. All the hate is coming because you are pissed you havent got the means to do it for yourself.
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10-16-2010 , 06:30 PM
The thing that pisses me off is that if this is the case then eventually everyone will be botting and its going to be bots vs bots and whoever is the better programmer wins.
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10-16-2010 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ironfalcon99
The thing that pisses me off is that if this is the case then eventually everyone will be botting and its going to be bots vs bots and whoever is the better programmer wins.
no difference between a bot and a nitty rakeback whore imo. But in the end i agree, last thing we need is more nits at the table.
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10-16-2010 , 06:55 PM
Do you sheep not notice that he OP has ignored every request to post his graphs (or his SN)? The odds that this is all a fabrication are high.
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10-16-2010 , 07:13 PM
there will always be cheaters in poker, especially in the unregulated world of online poker. "if you aren't cheating, you aren't trying." there should be more blame on full tilt and ipoker rather than bashing OP
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10-16-2010 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by zeko1985
Again, le Gardener has hit the nail on the head. Levelling abuse at someone and wishing them dead is an emotional reaction more to do with jelousy and hate. If I told people I had a bot and it just lost thousands they would laugh and mock. Its not the botting they are against, its the winning.

I am doing a service to the community, bringing to light important issues, I could have chosen to say nothing on the subject. It doesnt do me any favours.

For those calling for my SN. I still have discussion with FT about my BR, but may consider giving my SN in due course....although this may create obvious problems for me.
there is no ****ing way anything you're saying is true. solid gimmick/troll
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10-16-2010 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Hood
But the silliest thing about your argument is that you personally do not want what you wish for. If tomorrow full tilt said that they allowed bots, very soon the site would be flooded with them. It would be trivial to run multiple bots, and soon real players would be a small fraction of the player pool, and your profits would disappear.
no money in botting...everyone's a bot
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10-16-2010 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by teddyFBI
Do you sheep not notice that he OP has ignored every request to post his graphs (or his SN)? The odds that this is all a fabrication are high.
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Originally Posted by RigMeARiver
Doesn't really matter if the OP is a level, we should thank him for keeping this topic at the forefront of our minds. Bots are of no concern whatsoever to the sites unless they receive pressure (and evidence) from players.
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10-16-2010 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by zeko1985
I beleive that botting is a legit form of poker [...] Botting should be allowed, its a form of poker at its purist.
Making a bot involves the ability to think logically (rational deduction from premises to produce a conclusion). Your statements above are illogical because they are simply conclusions with no evidence of how you arrived at them.

Which means you don't have the ability to build a bot. You probably started this thread because you had nothing else to do.
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10-16-2010 , 07:40 PM
Why don't you just program an automated trading system in the financial markets? It's 10x harder but probably 20x more profitable. And 100% legal.
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10-16-2010 , 07:44 PM
OP - glad you made the thread, it's a much more interesting "View" than 99% of NVG.

However, you act surprised that normal players don't see your point of view when you yourself lack the perspective to see both sides of the argument.
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