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04-15-2011 , 06:55 PM

#1101

SharkTank43

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,731

04-15-2011 , 06:56 PM

#1102

adsss

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 645

Quote:

Originally Posted by $taybuffMM

Been playing holdem and omaha since 1995 @ UT Austin. Been playing online since about 2002. Spend 4 minutes adn read the indictments here:

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pres...dictmentpr.pdf

"For example, defendants ISAI SCHEINBERG and PAUL TATE of
PokerStars, RAYMOND BITAR and NELSON BURTNICK of Full Tilt Poker,
and SCOTT TOM and BRENT BECKLEY of Absolute Poker, arranged for
the money received from U.S. gamblers to be disguised as payments
to hundreds of non-existent online merchants purporting to sell
merchandise such as jewelry and golf balls."

"By late 2009, after U.S. banks and financial
institutions detected and shut down multiple fraudulent bank
accounts used by the Poker Companies, SCHEINBERG and BITAR
developed a new processing strategy that would not involve lying
to banks. PokerStars, FullTilt Poker, and their payment
processors persuaded the principals of a few small, local banks
facing financial difficulties to engage in such processing in
return for multi-million dollar investments in the banks. For
example, in September 2009, ELIE and others approached defendant
JOHN CAMPOS, the Vice Chairman of the Board and part-owner of
SunFirst Bank, a small, private bank based in Saint George, Utah,
about processing Internet poker transactions. While expressing
"trepidations," CAMPOS allegedly agreed to process gambling
transactions in return for a $10 million investment in SunFirst
by ELIE and an associate, which would give them a more than 30%
ownership stake in the bank. CAMPOS also requested and received
a $20,000 "bonus" for his assistance. In an e-mail, one of
ELIE’s associates boasted that they had "purchased" SunFirst and
that they "were looking to purchase" "a grand total of 3 or 4
banks" to process payments."

They literally bought a bank and paid the manager to violate the UIGEA. You just cant do that and brag about it.

These guys are criminals, f*&$ em. The silver lining is that the sheer numbers of us will force a reputable, regulated business at some point in the future. You would rather play in a game without thugs and guns right? Well then lets play in one where our hosts arent white collar criminals.

You, sir, live in a country where white collar criminals, just like these, run our government. Name me a politician, probably beside Ron Paul, who does not do run for office without being paid by some type of big corporate company.

04-15-2011 , 06:56 PM

#1103

NYC's Finest

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,970

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wardrums

America has been a joke. What little freedom we have is currently being taken. The only question now is, what are we going to do about it? I have my IRS check ready for Monday, but have decided to tear it up.

I am not going to pay one more fu*kin nickel to a government who uses my own money to remove my freedom!

This goes beyond poker, this is a war on our personal choice of spending money we earn as we choose.

i support this 100% you go girl!

04-15-2011 , 06:56 PM

#1104

HVEEPOKER

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 255

Quote:

Originally Posted by StoneColdTex

If you cant cash out... Feel free to transfer a few $s to me...

stone-x-cold (FT)

Can't even transfer $$$$

04-15-2011 , 06:56 PM

#1105

the_dude911

banned

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 209

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMG_LadyGaga

Anyone know what live games I can play on a 3k roll??

Not that you would be interested but was able to sign up for a freeroll for a tourny ticketon fulltilt but not on stars. One thing I noticed is that like last week fulltilt took down their freerolls to win cash.....coincidence?

04-15-2011 , 06:57 PM

#1106

VitoT

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 658

USA did one more step forward - in becoming IRAN !!

04-15-2011 , 06:57 PM

#1107

L67C

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 138

In Andrew Feldman is correct, will PokerStars.fr be affected?

04-15-2011 , 06:58 PM

#1108

DonnieVinyard

adept

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 940

hopefully moneybookers are caught up in this, they stole my monies

04-15-2011 , 06:58 PM

#1109

4h8red

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 279

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOLSlowRoll

Not sure what to do with my monies on stars, live in the UK. Should i get it out now in case this affects us over here?

Originally I thought It wouldn't be an issue for us, but after reading all the information I decided to (succesfully) withdraw my whole roll.

It's more that likely that your money is safe, but until more information is revealed I feel that it would be wiser to grab your money now while you can. There's nothing to lose if you can withdraw now, you can always re-deposit in a few days if things IF things settle and more information is revealed.

04-15-2011 , 06:58 PM

#1110

djslumdog

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 169

So should I still pay my taxes?

Idk if the money I earned is income or not anymore..

04-15-2011 , 06:58 PM

#1111

al-samak

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 5

On the news !! Don`t forget the thumbs up for "nordiks"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzylCzcc4wo

04-15-2011 , 06:59 PM

#1112

smellmuth

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,954

Quote:

Originally Posted by stampler

ya, i'm a (live)tard,

sorry, but i just think it's so funny that OL players think they are so badass, yet now it is revealed that everyone was drawing dead. lol.
have to laugh, sorry.

does anyone think for a minute that if there was a 'run on the bank', and everyone wanted to withdrawl their account simultaneously, that the site would have everyones $ ??

banks do the same thing. you deposit your $, the bank turns around and loans it out 10X, and invests it. when you want to withdraw it, they try to talk you out of closing your account every time. it's because they don't have everyones' $ anymore. it's called fractional reserve banking.

in other words: that $ does not exist, and it never existed.
c'ya!

don't worry, though, soon enough we will have a cashless society forced upon us, and then live players will be f@#*%d.

lol @ comparing player balances to non demand account balances at a bank.

04-15-2011 , 06:59 PM

#1113

karamazonk

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,626

US government wants to protect me? Then don't let me lose the five figures in my FTP account!

04-15-2011 , 06:59 PM

#1114

Wesker1982

adept

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,119

Ron Paul 2012

04-15-2011 , 06:59 PM

#1115

Victor

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 72,386

Quote:

Originally Posted by RT_437

Dyenimator, quit fckn trollin dude, this is serious. Fckn habs fans

u mad bro

04-15-2011 , 07:00 PM

#1116

fmlycar

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 394

at least I can still go buy a lottery ticket /sarcasm

one thymeeeee?

04-15-2011 , 07:00 PM

#1117

Lucksacks

stranger

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3

They did it for the lulz!

04-15-2011 , 07:00 PM

#1118

nuxxx

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,525

managed getting my money off, try changing dns servers if people are having problems, it worked for me.

04-15-2011 , 07:01 PM

#1119

beeswax

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 287

Doesn't the Doj give 20% of all funds seized to whistleblowers if so David tzseversky is entitled to 600 mil. Get arrested, avoid jail time, make 600 mil=profit?

04-15-2011 , 07:02 PM

#1120

Tammy_Pax

enthusiast

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 58

I'm in the UK and Just tried to make cashout from Stars, lets me type in amount but doesn't respond after pressing submit.

Can anyone in UK make a dummy cashout and see if they can get further than i did?

Cheers

04-15-2011 , 07:02 PM

#1121

Brinkytinky

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 394

Quote:

Originally Posted by karamazonk

US government wants to protect me? Then don't let me lose the five figures in my FTP account!

BALLINNNNNN

nar srsly, ur goin broke brah

04-15-2011 , 07:02 PM

#1122

Supesimmo

adept

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,004

Hmmm, I'm self excluded on stars until the 26th so I can't access my account.

I'm a UK player; is there anything I can do (in order to make a withdrawal) besides contacting stars support & praying?

04-15-2011 , 07:02 PM

#1123

al-samak

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 5

On the news !! Don`t forget the thumbs up for "nordiks"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzylCzcc4wo

04-15-2011 , 07:03 PM

#1124

lolplaid

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,261

Quote:

Originally Posted by adsss

You, sir, live in a country where white collar criminals, just like these, run our government. Name me a politician, probably beside Ron Paul, who does not do run for office without being paid by some type of big corporate company.

04-15-2011 , 07:03 PM

#1125

David123

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,818

this is kinda annoying, is everyone withdrawing or what?

i havent got any srs money on, but would be very tilting to lose it to some messed up U.S law BS.

Last edited by David123; 04-15-2011 at 07:05 PM. Reason: just withdrew my br, why not amirite..

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