hello i'm from canada and i cant get on fulltilt is there a way to...

vwp, sir.

I tip my hat to you.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/day-2-qj-live-show

Great radio show running for 48hrs plus enjoy.

Hahahaha......this made me lol (despite how ****ty the situation is). Nice one, Chappelle.

Sure, in theory. Everybody knows the US is being run by corporations and banks. It almost doesn't matter who the people vote for anymore. It's hardly a democracy anymore. Save yourselves Americans, Ron Paul ftw in 2012. Please! /derailment

Uninstall ftp.

Then download fulltiltpoker.eu

THIS IS GOLD

If PS and FT have properly segregated player funds, then paying off the American players still leaves all the non-US players' money available to pay them off too. I think it is almost certain that PS and FT have got the player funds segregated, so on those sites, I would not worry if I was a non-US player. In any event it will likely be some time before they can find a mechanism to cash out the US players. If I was a non-US player on PS or FT, I would probably be playing more than I did last week.

On AP and UB, I think there is quite good reason to fear that the sites have not segregated the players' money, so yes, cashing out the US players would put the non-US players at risk. If I was a non-US player on AP or UB, I'd try to withdraw everything right now.

No matter where I played, I would never leave more money on a poker site than I needed in order to play my desired stakes under proper BR management. And I would never put money on a poker site that I needed for something IRL.

I didn't read all 56 pages, so maybe somebody already pointed this out. But is it a coincidence that all this happened on ****ing Tax Day (or the usual tax day). Right now the government is in some deep financial **** and I think they are trying to cash in on whatever they can, every Billion counts! It's getting disgusting. I suppose eventually it will be legalized, Harrahs will take over and charge a Commerce style drop. Hah..Harrah's (or whoever the **** they are now) has to get their government bribe money back some how!

I do feel for all of the online players that will trouble accessing their bankrolls. Look at it this way, now you can move to a Poker Meca, rebuild through all of those easy live games. Oh and live there is no paper trail. Winnings are not trackable, only spending is

Quadjacks reporting about a supposed affiliates mail Stars sent out just now. Seems a bit fake though, the message contained some "intel" that affiliates from FTP were sent an email to stop sending in american customers 11 days before Black Friday.

That's me. I just posted the email a few pages back.

Carbon poker still have US players, does this site is going to be shut down too ??

I think the best way forward is to educate ourselves on the legislation process and the recent bills regarding internet gambling. Then we should identify the obstacles of these bills and focus our attention on them. I propose the greatest threat is Chairman Spencer Bachus, R-Ala. We need to know exactly how to push these bills through and who to get around. We need to dig into the voting of Congress on these matters. We need a strategy on how to apply pressure, to whom, and when. I have done a minor amount of research on this so would be great if others can keep the ball rolling. A healthy debate would be good on how a large group of people can get what they want. Perhaps the first thing is to get a list going on friends and foes and order them on how much of a friend or threat they are.

Background if you need it on Legislation:

-All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives. Each state receives representation in proportion to its population but at least 1. ( CA has 53) Reps serve two years, elections are every even numbered year. The HR uses committees to review bills. Each standing committee considers, amends, and reports bills that fall under its jurisdiction. Committees have extensive powers with regard to bills; they may block legislation from reaching the floor of the House.
-Senate retains the power to amend or reject bills. Each state is represented by 2 senators and serve staggered 6 year terms so that approximately one-third of the seats are up for election every two years.
-Both houses must approve the same version of a final bill to become law.
-President may veto the bill and will not become law unless 2/3 supermajority in each chamber overrides the veto.

Recent bills regarding internet gambling including sponsors (our friends):

HR 2267: Internet Gambling Regulation, Consumer Protection, and Enforcement Act, 111th Congress - This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven't passed are cleared from the books. Members often reintroduce bills that did not come up for debate under a new number in the next session.

Sponsor: Barney Frank’s (D-MA) - There are 70 cosponsors you can see them here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2267

HR 1174: The Internet Gambling Regulation, Consumer Protection and Enforcement Act, 112th Congress - Expected to be referred to the House Financial Services Committee, where it will likely face stiff resistance from Chairman Spencer Bachus, R-Ala., who strongly opposed Frank's bill last year. Last Action: Apr 4, 2011: House Financial Services: Referred to the Subcommittee on Financial Institutions and Consumer Credit.

Sponsor: John Campbell (R-CA) - Cosponsers: Barney Frank (D-MA), Peter King (R-NY) and Ed Perlmutter (D-CO);

links I used:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1174,
http://www.house.gov/,
http://www.wikipedia.org/

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they broke a dumb, corrupt law (UIGEA). That was neither supported by the people nor instated democratically.

Dont even ****in think about backtrackin and bringing up the payment processors, cause i already called them out as less than reputable.

Breaking a dumb, and/or corrupt law, does NOT = corrupt.


You're letting your ignorance control you aka moran.

Are the quad jacks podcast still going on???????????????

Btw you are missing the new chat bubbles on PS (a small bubble shows up over your username/avatar) whenever you type something. Probably for deal-chop-chat off-noticing purposes on final table.

http://quadjacks.com/

These guys are just epic. It's like all the online poker legends make a last statement. And they are on air for over 48 hours now. :O

I love how all these Europeans and Canadians are laughing at us. It's obvious they just hate us for our freedoms. I feel sorry for Doyle though. Now that all these internet players will be playing in his live games, he'll probably be broke soon.

I'm from England mate, I'd like to point out that we don't all feel that way, I personally sympathise with all you guys: from the beer drinking average joe that fires up a few tournaments on a sunday to the guy with 3 kids and bills to pay through poker, its a raw deal, its ****ed up...sorry.

-Hopefully you all get your money back and within the next 6 months there is a legalised US friendly mega site that gets an influx of all the US recreational players that have probably avoided online poker post UIGEA, then the games will hopefully get juicy again and online poker will flourish around the world more than ever, until then GL!

Listen to QuadJacks... beats the random crap in this thread. Still going strong!

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/day-2-qj-live-show

Don't be concerned about WHETHER the Site(s) will be shut down...

If the Payment Processing is Shut Down/Seized like in the Stars/FT Case whether or not the "Site(s)" stay on-line is less and less relevant.

Because...You are in basically playing with "Play Chip(s)".

And when the Indictments are thrown at them, Banks, Financial Institutions and even shady Processing guys Offshore RUN FAR FAR AWAY from those that are CHARGED with FEDERAL CRIMES!

Therefore getting your Money OUT becomes more and more IMPOSSIBLE over TIME especially if it's a REAL amount that is not $50 - $1000 Dollars but more like $10-$100K+ GOOD LUCK!

Jet Set had that years ago. They had many features that could/should have been copied bythe big sites.

It sounds like there may be some hope there, I thought it was generally accepted that the UIGEA doesn't make online poker illegal, and just affects transfers of money. So if their case rests on online poker being illegal they may have a hard time proving this, right? And it would have to be online poker being illegal in the US, as they certainly can't claim it to be illegal worldwide however much they might like to.

Don't Judge ENTIRE Countries from what a FEW DONKS post here or ANY where!

I'm Canadian, I support Online Gaming & the Players especially in the US that stand to lose out in this Situation.

Just taking a few Donk Statements does not mean Entire Countries hate you or your kind or your Country. Canada like the UK / EU fight in Wars with the US up to and including present Day.