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Old 02-03-2012, 11:47 AM   #501
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Re: Response regarding money I owe to Full Tilt

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Why has this thread got 400+ posts? I doubt anyone would ever think that Barry would ever be less than 100% trustworthy. Chillax people, he's a good guy...
So you'll cover it if he doesn't pay right?

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What the f!!! The guy admitted he owed and will pay back as soon as its clear the money is going to the players. You people badgering him are something else. How many pros come on here and talk honestly with you? How many respond to you at all??? The guy does the right thing by us over and over but yet you micro losers still attack him. Thank you Barry. I have much respect for you and how you handle things. Don't let the small percentage of people (who probably don't even have any money in full tilt) bother you.




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-1, anyone can say they're going to pay back, why no response to the escrow part? If Barry was for an escrow account to pay it back immediately and GBT only gets it if they pay back and GBT said no then I agree they're the bad guy. But I had mid 5 figures on there and although there are a lot of bustos posting here no doubt I recognize the names of other people who were playing at least midstakes on FTP and I presume have 5 and maybe even a few 6 figures locked up.

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I don't understand at all the people who are negative on Barry about this. It's exactly what I think is best for players. Escrow perhaps better to set an example for other players,

but that's about it. wp.
I mean he was pretty vague about everything. If he'd offered to set up an escrow and GBT said no you'd think he would have posted that. That's my issue with him (and other pros who owe money) right now. I mean yes he's posting about it and that makes him better than the other pros who owe, but at the end of the day he's not doing anything that helps us get our money that Ivey/Benyamine/etc. aren't doing.

edit: Also played with Benyamine at WSOP this summer and he was all blaming the DoJ for not paying out claiming they had a lot more locked than Stars and that's why they hadn't paid out yet. What a ****ing scumbag.
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:54 AM   #502
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lol at not paying cause of the us situation. i thought you were better than that barry greenstein 'robin hood of poker'. WTFWTFWTF.
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:56 AM   #503
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I dont get why BG has to care about where the money will go.I mean Ivey Durrr or any other ftp pro can play that card cause they were basically ftp's image.
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:59 AM   #504
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heres why. its cause they dont give a **** and it's another reason to stall on paying a debt they prob thought they weren't going to have to.
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:01 PM   #505
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heres why. its cause they dont give a **** and it's another reason to stall on paying a debt they prob thought they weren't going to have to.
It was a rhetorical question but thanks anyway for making it clear to the others also hah.
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:07 PM   #506
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I'm sure if the deal hinged on this Barry would pay out in a second. Barry wants to make sure the money goes to the players and not to Tapie's pockets, I don't see anything where he says he wouldn't pay. There are people on that list I'd be worried about but I don't see where this hate towards Barry is coming from.
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:10 PM   #507
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In addition to borrow money online, I have had lots of credit lines from casinos. At one point I owed over 3 million
Take it to the degen thread in BBV!
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:11 PM   #508
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When i borrow 50 euro and the next day i have 100 i usually pay the debt in a second i wont start a thread on 2p2 sharing my thoughts.No hate seriously just stating the obvious.
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:17 PM   #509
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When i borrow 50 euro and the next day i have 100 i usually pay the debt in a second i wont start a thread on 2p2 sharing my thoughts.No hate seriously just stating the obvious.
greek giving economy advice, this doesnt look too good... jk
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:20 PM   #510
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greek giving economy advice, this doesnt look too good... jk
I had a prop bet that i could dodge the "----> greek" comments for more than 10 posts.I rly hate u.
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:23 PM   #511
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Seriously, I don't get all the hate for Barry, at least he's making some kind of statement concerning his debts to FTP etc. It would help if other Pros would finally break the silence and give us some insight about what's really going on, preferrably the ones who actually caused this whole situation.
Let the grown ups talk. I don't get all the hate for murderers....I mean, at least they are trying to apologize once they get caught.

Barry is obviously not as innocent as a lot of you want to think. He only came out with a statement because he had no other choice. He does have an opportunity to set a few things straight and come out with info about his pals before he once again, has to.

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Old 02-03-2012, 12:24 PM   #512
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I had a prop bet that i could dodge the "----> greek" comments for more than 10 posts.I rly hate u.
haha, sorry bro!
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:48 PM   #513
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Let the grown ups talk. I don't get all the hate for murderers....I mean, at least they are trying to apologize once they get caught.

Barry is obviously not as innocent as a lot of you want to think. He only came out with a statement because he had no other choice. He does have an opportunity to set a few things straight and come out with info about his pals before he once again, has to.
Comparing this to murder? Wow stretch much? Let grown ups talk? This is filled with so much fail it hurts.

He had to comment??? Show me one person responding on a message board to any of us. This is exactly why no one comes on here to answer questions. Like this attack
On him is going to encourage anyone to talk.
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:59 PM   #514
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Comparing this to murder? Wow stretch much? Let grown ups talk? This is filled with so much fail it hurts.

He had to comment??? Show me one person responding on a message board to any of us. This is exactly why no one comes on here to answer questions. Like this attack
On him is going to encourage anyone to talk.
'Cause the rest don't care what you think. They no longer care about their image. They've given up on the poker gravy train and are hoping this will just fade away.

BG cares what you think. Cares more about his image than probably anyone in poker. Is still squeezing checks from PStars. But like the others, he's also hoping this will just fade away.

BG's post makes him worse than Ivey in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, Ivey's still scum.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:00 PM   #515
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Re: Response regarding money I owe to Full Tilt

just pay the money back, it doens't matter if it's going to ftp or GBT, you owe money and now the money that you owe is affecting the process of the entire process. pay off your debt and give all players a break.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:03 PM   #516
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just pay the money back, it doens't matter if it's going to ftp or GBT, you owe money and now the money that you owe is affecting the process of the entire process. pay off your debt and give all players a break.
Probably the best post in this thread.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:04 PM   #517
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Do you guys realize this is barry g? A guy that has donated millons to charity....
If he has donated millions to charity, why is he screwing us over a $400k debt?
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:08 PM   #518
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Comparing this to murder? Wow stretch much? Let grown ups talk? This is filled with so much fail it hurts.

He had to comment??? Show me one person responding on a message board to any of us. This is exactly why no one comes on here to answer questions. Like this attack
On him is going to encourage anyone to talk.
Like I said, let the grown ups talk.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:09 PM   #519
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Like I said, let the grown ups talk.
Ya, no one laughed at the out of place movie line comment the first time. Yet you fail again. Well done. What's next? Are you gonna tell someone that their mouth is Writing checks that they can't cash?
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:10 PM   #520
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because hes bustooooo

they r ****ing hookers with our money right now for gods sake
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:12 PM   #521
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1. $400K is not going to get ANYONE paid (ROW or US) so whether he pays now or after a deal is struck shouldn't really matter.
2. If $400K is a deal breaker for GBT then that's a major LOL!!!
3. If anyone of us were in any of these FTP pro's situation, we would probably be doing the same thing. It's ridiculous that it's come to this, but at the same time, all of these guys were just handed a 6-7 figure freeroll. Sure, they SHOULD pay back the debts, but if FTP goes under, they are off the hook for what was loaned to them. These guys clearly don't care what happens to the rest of the players and are just looking at the best line for THEMSELVES. I'd say about 98% of us would do the same thing...and anyone who says otherwise, is just saying that because you want your FTP money back.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:15 PM   #522
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Joey, you better talk nicer to me...er I mean if you want to encourage me to talk.

Also quit calling legit criticisms "attacks"...grown ups know the difference.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:18 PM   #523
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I'm surprised no one else has mentioned this before now, but if Barry did indeed borrow the money several years ago, as both he and the reports claim, then it's entirely likely that he did, in fact, borrow from profits/dividends rather than borrowing from player funds.

Remember that FTP wasn't insolvent for its entire history. At one point in time they had more than enough to cover all player deposits and pay themselves massive amounts of dividends. If he borrowed during that time period, constantly harping that "HE BORROWED OUR MONEY!" is both factually inaccurate and needlessly inflammatory.
What was the point in time that they had enough to cover player deposits?
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:18 PM   #524
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I'm sure if the deal hinged on this Barry would pay out in a second. Barry wants to make sure the money goes to the players and not to Tapie's pockets, I don't see anything where he says he wouldn't pay. There are people on that list I'd be worried about but I don't see where this hate towards Barry is coming from.
He is clearly refusing to pay. He talks about maybe paying some DOJ fund. But he doesn’t owe the money to a DOJ fund. Even if he paid the money to a DOJ fund he would still owe the money to FT
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:19 PM   #525
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What was the point in time that they had enough to cover player deposits?
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