The original name of the thread was Regulated Market GGpoker.ca Blatantly allowing prop players. it was changed 3 days ago after you started posting here once again proving you don't read the information. Prop players are illegal in Canadian casinos and should be illegal on regulated Canadian sites I don't care how they do it at limons US mafia games that's not how its done here.

They are almost certainly prop players and that alone is a scandal but Americans cant understand that so I asked the name of the thread to be changed.

Here is the kicker they can both be prop players and bots at a call center. People have called them "not bots" because they have operators. It might be one operator between 11 accounts but there is a human playing some hands. They will sometimes play me hu and fold 30 straight hands. and other days play decent

I never said no one grinds for Rakeback. I said what you think of a Rakeback grinder does not exist which is someone who wins very small and not very good relative to the pool. That is not me saying no one grinds for 60k because clearly I also stated I do.

Ultimately I never claimed to know everything. I am not contradictory since I don't have a definite answer. If you read the thread you would know there are competing theory's.

The proof is in the discrepancies not the motive and results.


"You say they are colluding on BBJ, but then wave away the fact that with their volume, they're most likely down on BBJ rake compared to BBJs they've won. Then you say no one on the site beats rake, right after you say you and your booger flicking friends beat the site."

This is probably the worst comment you made in the entire thread. I have explained in great detail how they win the jackpot above expected value. if you pay 2bb/100 into the jackpot and your ev is 4bb/100 you are getting more back from the jackpot then you put in. No one beats the rake the top 40 regs have all admitted it. the rake is insane. but we all play there still so ill let you figure that one out. I guess the top 40 players in Ontario are all bad rakeback players.

Update.


Pretty much right after I made this post they started deviating from their aligned schedules that they all did for the first 9+ month. So I would like to say the fact this thread or the entire Ontario reg community pming gg about it did something but we may never know the answer of what happened here because it is likely hidden behind gg and Ontario bureaucracy.

I am happy to report as of a month and a bit ago at the same time their volume all at once came to a crawl where at most they were only putting up 1000 leaderboard points. (before they would be from 3-7k lb points in a day everyday) We barely ever play against them anymore and the games are once again legit

Now the fact they all reduced volume at the same time when we contacted the Ontario regulators is just another obvious sign that they were all working together.

We finally contacted the Ontario regulators about this through a known Ontario twitch streamer at about the same time their volume dropped . We have heard enough of my ideas in this thread so ill just post from are discord behind the scenes his theory. fyi are discord of Ontario regs called them "nitgate"






Funny enough GG poker is now lobbying The Ontario government to move Ontario poker back to the global pool which would be awful for people from Ontario so that's probably the next fight. If this situation proves anything its that the only defense against these scummy bot/vpning allowing sites/corporations is sadly Goverment intervention


I think people playing in the row should learn a bit from this and encourage regulated poker because these shady sites that might be running their own bot/prop player rings aint it. I truly believe regulated poker is the only hope for the future of online poker

zero of the 11 accounts have been on since my last post. In fact they all went cold turkey on the site at the same time reinforcing the theory they were either a prop player ring or working together for nefarious reasons.

Once again the chances of 11 regular accounts all quitting at once after playing the same schedule for a year is impossible to be a coincidence.

Funny enough the likely reason for them quitting is a lot of euros have started remote playing in and possibly making them unprofitable. (ring fenced site where you need to be in Ontario to play)

Hopefully GG has nothing to do with this but that's a fight for another day. (these new sus accounts only play on gg.ca and not pokerstars.ca or partypoker.ca)

What can you really do if you know people are paying locals to help them vpn in or play from their local work stations? It makes a lot of sense they would do this since Ontario games are the softest in the world. We know this is happening because too many unknown accounts have started mass tabling the higher stakes. Its a small community and pretty much every winning regular is a known person and has acquaintances and discord contacts. Infact every highstakes player in Ontario is in the same discord to moderate and warn others of suspicious accounts. So when several new accounts show up every week with no name attached it is quite obvious they are moving or playing from out of the ring fence.

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