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Old 01-20-2014, 03:32 AM   #1
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The Re-Branding of Annie Duke !

Annie is now a Speaker and "Decision Coach", getting paid to talk about the "Science of Decision" with her own web site & everything ! She claims to be a Decision Making "EXPERT" on her web site, and companies (I presume) pay to listen !!

http://annieduke.com/

She boasts that she is "An engaged activist and philanthropist, Annie Duke has leveraged her success and celebrity to champion great causes around the world !"

She offers her work at the PPA as a prime example.

http://annieduke.com/about-annie/

Really Annie
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Old 01-20-2014, 03:34 AM   #2
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Haha fitting opening quote to the website:

"Bluff is a sexy concept
but widely overused.
If you use it too often,
it's going to get
you in trouble."
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Old 01-20-2014, 03:37 AM   #3
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Re: The Re-Branding of Annie Duke !

I doubt this thread lasts...but I will say this

from my personal experience, she is basically Satan

I don't think there are very many people in the poker community who have anything nice to say about this woman.

She is awful on multiple levels.

Maybe the mods can merge all the threads where thousands of 2+2 posters are calling her horrible
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Old 01-20-2014, 03:41 AM   #4
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Re: The Re-Branding of Annie Duke !

seems legit
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Old 01-20-2014, 03:47 AM   #5
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I wonder if Howard is going to take her class.
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Old 01-20-2014, 03:50 AM   #6
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i thought this barred you from being a decision coach

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Old 01-20-2014, 03:50 AM   #7
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Re: The Re-Branding of Annie Duke !

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I doubt this thread lasts...but I will say this

from my personal experience, she is basically Satan

I don't think there are very many people in the poker community who have anything nice to say about this woman.

She is awful on multiple levels.

Maybe the mods can merge all the threads where thousands of 2+2 posters are calling her horrible
Not that I claim to know anything, but I think it's pretty ridiculous to call someone Satan. A) There are much much worse people out there and B) Everyone is a good person in their nature (imo), people just get mixed up in the world
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Old 01-20-2014, 03:53 AM   #8
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Re: The Re-Branding of Annie Duke !

In fairness, she HAS done a decent amount for various causes and charities*.

Problem is, all of that is greatly offset by some enormous lapses in judgment over the years. We at 2+2 certainly know all about her transgressions and shady dealings. But it's sad and a little appalling how well her image has held up among the casual fans or non-poker fans. Take a visit to her Facebook page and see for yourself (warning: don't do it on a full stomach).

I'd love to see an ElevenGrover or someone attend one of Duke's seminars, then go full steam ahead if/when the floor is opened to questions.

*EDIT: despite all the work she has done for hospitals and school programs, I wouldn't want her near any of it because I'd fear she would scrape a few too many bucks off the top for herself.
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Old 01-20-2014, 03:57 AM   #9
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The diligent scrubbing of her Wikipedia article is partly responsible for holding her image up. An editor with a paid conflict of interest made the request a while ago, and it seems there weren't any reliable sources to preserve any of the negative claims against her. See the Talk page.

Just a thought for any Wikipedia editors out there. I do not know enough about Duke to gather sources or edit her article.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:05 AM   #10
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Re: The Re-Branding of Annie Duke !

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In fairness, she HAS done a decent amount for various causes and charities*.
I was taught growing up, that if you do something nice for someone else, keep quiet about it, otherwise your doing it for yourself.

I feel people that "advertise" all the charity work they do tend to have ulterior motives......but that's just my opinion.

She left a wake of destruction in the Poker Community, and never addressed it.

She is not alone.
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:36 AM   #11
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why don't we just find out every gig she has and get dozens of people to continuously email them and tell them just who they are hiring imo
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Old 01-20-2014, 04:50 AM   #12
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Re: The Re-Branding of Annie Duke !

wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Duke

think they left some stuff out

Wasn't she a part of some Internet Poker Site or something, that was stealing from it's players ?

She got paid "at least" $300,000 from the "Epic Poker League" that has been made public....for running THREE Poker Tournaments.

Wonder how much she got away with from Ultimate Bet ?
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Old 01-20-2014, 05:09 AM   #13
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That tattoo pic is too much. Ew.
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Old 01-20-2014, 06:00 AM   #14
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and philanthropist
Wow she's now a philanthropist???? Remember 1 of the WSOP episodes a few years ago when Brandon Cantu was featured and said that while a skycap at Portland Airport Annie Duke stiffed him on a tip????

Yeah she's so damn generous...
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Old 01-20-2014, 06:11 AM   #15
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Not that I claim to know anything, but I think it's pretty ridiculous to call someone Satan. A) There are much much worse people out there and B) Everyone is a good person in their nature (imo), people just get mixed up in the world
There are a lot of people in Syria that I would not classify as good person in nature. Maybe you only see your own little world.
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Old 01-20-2014, 06:18 AM   #16
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Not that I claim to know anything, but I think it's pretty ridiculous to call someone Satan. A) There are much much worse people out there and B) Everyone is a good person in their nature (imo), people just get mixed up in the world
Nope. She's pretty much worse than any genocide committing African dictator. hitler was a better person than her
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Old 01-20-2014, 06:48 AM   #17
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Thought this thread would be about new tattoo. Disappointed
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Old 01-20-2014, 07:05 AM   #18
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Nope. She's pretty much worse than any genocide committing African dictator. hitler was a better person than her
I wouldn't go that far. She is a horrible person though. The poster above who stated something to the effect that all people are inherently good is wrong though. A person's basic instinct is to protect/enrich their own and their loved one's life. Most people take into account morals and ethics when deciding on how to go about this. People like Annie Duke don't care who has to suffer for themselves to prosper. It's a major distinction between good and bad people. She is scum, absolute garbage. Bottom line.
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Old 01-20-2014, 07:36 AM   #19
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Hi Annie
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Old 01-20-2014, 07:46 AM   #20
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Re: The Re-Branding of Annie Duke !

that poster is actually 99% annie
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Old 01-20-2014, 08:49 AM   #21
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Hmmm left over account from when she was trying to defend UB?
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Old 01-20-2014, 09:29 AM   #22
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Re: The Re-Branding of Annie Duke !

There is a whole science called decision science. People that know this would be the people looking to actually pay someone for consulting on that. Her sitting around thinking "hmm... what can I do now? Well, I was great at poker and poker is about making decisions. So I'll just take it to the next level when I say presto" is not going to cut it. She is not qualified and that is pretty clear. Whether or not her celebrity can get a her a few clients before this peters out is the only question.
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Old 01-20-2014, 09:37 AM   #23
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Re: The Re-Branding of Annie Duke !

This thread needs Daniel Negreanu opinion to be creditable.

Does she even play poker anymore?
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Old 01-20-2014, 09:51 AM   #24
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There is a whole science called decision science. People that know this would be the people looking to actually pay someone for consulting on that. Her sitting around thinking "hmm... what can I do now? Well, I was great at poker and poker is about making decisions. So I'll just take it to the next level when I say presto" is not going to cut it. She is not qualified and that is pretty clear. Whether or not her celebrity can get a her a few clients before this peters out is the only question.
Pretty sure she's been doing this stuff for a while. Also pretty sure a ton of companies have no clue what to look for and get fooled by classic mumbo jumbo, give good reviews and on she goes.
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Old 01-20-2014, 10:03 AM   #25
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Re: The Re-Branding of Annie Duke !

I'm actually listening to her book right now.

Only just started it but since I already used an Audible credit for it, I'll go ahead on through it.

After all - she may be worse than Hitler (cause you know killing 6,000,000 people is trivial...) but --- but understanding other people's thought processes is never -EV.
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