Hachem (Anyone else in the list one a WPT Tourney)
Raymer (Mr Consistant)
Eastgate (Proven Cash Winners before making the transitition)
Duhammel (has wins outside NHLE to his name)
Moneymaker (deserve the credit for the boom)
Gold (Done nothing excpet lose since)
Cada (You beat a woodchopper who got lucky)
Yang (Stop kissing your kids and play poker)

Eastgate
Duhamel
Raymer (cause he'd have an edge in mixed games)
Cada (over Hachem, because he has a better understanding of modern MTT's)
Hachem
Moneymaker
Yang (Cause he's has a more powerful style than Gold)
Gold

You mean prayer? :P

lol
i know cada personally and he's easily top 2 or 3 on that list, guy has won every sunday major on ftp and played high stakes, had plenty of bankroll b4 his ME win
fwiw, he's also a real nice guy

Jamie Gold deserves credit for being able to talk his opponents into doing exactly what he wanted them to do almost the entire tournament. Gotta give the guy props for being able to do what he did beyond cards and traditional play. He seemed to have a weird sixth sense of understanding psychology and knowing exactly what a particular opponent needed to hear at any given time to influence particular outcome..

(I know this about what they've done since but Gold still deserves to be at the top among the guys that haven't done much bc of how he won)

maybe some people forgot how deep raymer ran in the 2005 event...he was sent home the 25th with a bad beat. that was ****ing impressive.

ps the hand was: blinds 20/40K raymer who was easily over the average in chips, raises with KK to 100K, another guy calls with QJ. flop 635 and raymer bets 150K. the other guy calls. turn the 7 and raymer bets about 300K. the random guy raised to 900K. raymer reraised all in, with an instacall as was pot comited. river was 2 and left raymer with less than 10BB.

If it's true that Eastgate beat 25/50 online then I think you have to put him first by default imo.

I can't see Hachem/Raymer or any of the others doing that. On second thought Raymer could probably eat 25/50 online though.

This guy is right. Massacres the English language, but is right.

yes my engwish has never been a strong point

This guy is correct. He massacres the English language, but he is correct.

Im surprised at all the Moneymaker hate itt. Hes no Ivey by any means, but hes far from horrible.

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=18826

2004:WPT Event 2nd, WPT Event 18th, WSOP Event 10th
2006: WSOP Event 28th
2007: WSOP Event 233rd, EPT Event 17th
2009: WSOP Circuit Event 2nd, 3 WPO Events (1st, 1st, 3rd)
2010: NBC Heads Up Championship 9th, EPT Event 69th
2011: EPT Event 11th, NBC Heads Up Championship 2nd

i mean again, its not the WSOP/E big time events...but hes not as horrible as you want to believe he is.

Also..nobody else has done anything? Isthat basedoff just what you seeon TV or something?

Cada-17th and 64th in 2 other WSOP events the year he won; 11th in NAPT Event last year; 13th and 3rd in 2 different EPT Events this year...

Duhamel- 50th and 15thin 2 other WSOP events last year before winning ME; EPT 1st and WSOP 54th and 15th this year...

now Jerry Yang/Jamie Gold is completely different story....Yang disappeared after winning before cashing in 3 WSOP Events last year (195th, 96th, 57th)

Gold? bout the same as Yang...2 cashes in WSOP 2008 (44th, 84th), WSOPE cash in 2008 (35th), WSOP cash this year (135th)...not much.

Havent you ever seen rounders "the nicer the poker player... the poorer the player" up jamie and hachem

this, lol..

Raymer
Duhamel
Eastgate
Cada
Hachem
money
gold
yang

Hachem
Eastgate
Duhamel
Cada
Fossilman
Moneymaker
Gold
Yang

lmao


I don't know anything about Duhamel's non-NL game, so I'd say Raymer is #1 all around.

Regarding only NL
1. Duhamel
and then the rest of 'em

1) Eastgate
2) Duhamel
3) Cada
4) Hachem
5) Raymer
6) Moneymaker













7) Yang

















8) Gold

Made me lol on the train just now. Don't even know why, i've seen funnier

Raymer fat jokes?! leeeeeaaaaave raymer allooonnne

Yang everybodys last place pick had the most effective strategy for his skill level of any of them. Could have been by accident but swinging for the fences was his only chance

Lol just watch pokerstars big game when cada played. He eventually had to quit because he was so overmatched. He was o cashes for over 50 events after his main event win.

just another thread basically having a go at jerry yang and jamie lol - u guys are stupid, Jamie won the biggest live tournament theres ever been, not only that but he went wire to wire over like 4 days for gods sake, and yeah he ran good but thats not his fault is it? as for his behaviour so what, u all need to start to realise some of these top pros arent the nicest guys in the world, deal with it.

this thread happens quarterly

lol

I'm pretty sure the last time this thread happened most, if not all, of the actual high stake players who posted in it said that Eastgate was very possibly the best No Limit Holdem player to ever win the WSOP Main Event.