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Originally Posted by Do it Right
What you're saying makes sense and I'm sure I've probably said something very similar but it just occurred to me that it's actually logically flawed. You're spot on on the average each fish deposits per month. According to Arjel the average deposit is €67 or about $90 a month, a number that is likely more or less similar amongst all the sites. But the logical inconsistency derives from the fact net depositing players - fish - are the ones who bring almost all of the money into the poker economy.
If the average deposit is $90 per month - then in order to match their profits today the sites would need to charge an average of $90 * percent_of_deposits_converted_to_rake to match their current profits. The percent of deposits converted to rake I've seen thrown around is 65%. That would be an average fee of $58.5 per month. But that assumes nothing changes. In rakeless games players would last *much* longer. And presumably the word of mouth would also massively change the game. Instead of so many players complaining of rigging, cheating, blah as a means to explain their losses - we'd have games where roughly 50% - perhaps even more given the bottom heavy nature of the extremes on the skill curve - are walking away winners.
I'm also assuming that $90 deposit is an average per active player, and not per deposit. If it's per deposit then the requisite monthly fee would be lower, perhaps much lower, as the $0 deposit/month players would bring the average down.
You just prove that you have no clue what you are talking all the time.
I just don't get why people follow that but I guess I should never underestimate the power of carefully worded nonsense.
We have a current system where net depositors are raked less (e.g. they deposit 100$, lose 80$, rake 20$, Would say that is fairly close assumption) and regs that play way more, don't deposit, just take the money off the economy and they "pay" (which isn't true but for the sake of discusion lets pretend that regs do pay the rake) way more rake. Isn't it fair system???
So basically you want to heavily increase the rake for amators while decreasing it for proffesionals when the whole game is based on the amators existence and play
Now you tax every depposit it instantly increase the costs for fish aka net depositors that will have to pay the fee every month while effectively decreasing the cost of play for every reg on the site.
Do you even understand how ******edly stupid it is???
In an enviroment that there is less and less net depositors every day you want to force them to pay way more to play while decreasing the cost for every reg that play there. The games round around the marks, don't they?
Seriously please stop posting cause you have no clue what are you talking about.