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The "return" of Haseeb Qureshi The "return" of Haseeb Qureshi

12-21-2013 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by shipit2kg
"steal from the rich and give to the...your family"

-Robin Haseeb Qureshi
haha
12-21-2013 , 02:53 PM
Hi Haseeb, can I have some money too please?
12-21-2013 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
This is tilting me too. Even I understand this concept, and I hardly know anything about being a responsible adult.

Here's a very simplified example on how deductions work:

Let's pretend that everyone in the US has a flat income tax rate of 30%. If you make $100,000/year, then your "taxable income" is 100k, and you owe 30k in taxes.

That's not counting deductions, though. Suppose I donate to charity and write a bunch of stuff off as deductions, totaling $30,000. This does NOT mean that I pay $0 in taxes ($30k - $30k). It means that my "taxable income" now becomes $70,000 ($100k - $30k). I still pay 30% of my taxable income, so now I owe $21,000 in taxes.

But if you made 1m, blew through half and gave away the other 500k in legal assets you'd be liable for 150k and the government would have no way of collecting. Might not be what he was doing, but considering the type of person he is there are definitely ulterior motives.

You can't really knock the 75k given to charity, but I do have some reservations about the one he chose. ICCS? Where the **** do you find out about a charity like that. It's possibly(probably?) legitimate, but if someone wanted to create a bogus charity to trick people into handing over money it would probably look something like that site.

To be fair I haven't looked through it that thoroughly, but from a quick googling i couldn't find any legitimate/respected organizations that recognize the cause or the people behind it. There's no chain of accountability as far as I can tell. No way of proving where the money is going. To warrant giving money to a charity like that (rather than a long list of other humanitarian causes that have a proven track record) you'd either need to have some close personal connections that you really, really trust, be a complete fool or be the one collecting the money on the other end.
12-21-2013 , 03:00 PM
"I cheated, lied, and vouched for a scammer to help perpetuate fraud, but I take offense to being called a scammer."
12-21-2013 , 03:01 PM
I just want to say though. That when anybody donates a large amount of money to charity they do deserve the recognition for it. If they dont directly or indirectly make it known how would people ever know?

No shame in telling people about it. I imagine it would give him a great feeling when everybody knows. He deserves that.

If i was in a position to donate alot of money id be sneakily leaking it out tbh!
12-21-2013 , 03:02 PM
Haters gonna hate. I think its awesome to hook your parents like that. I wish i could pay my parents back for everything. People should learn forgiveness. People make mistakes and people can change. Good luck with the book, ill check it out.
12-21-2013 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by HaseebQ
Donating money to charity can't really be tax evasion. The only time donating money to charity is strategically advantageous from a tax perspective is when it puts you into a lower tax bracket, which isn't really applicable here.
This isn't even true. You don't get put into a "bracket". The first 10k you make and the first 10k bill gates makes are taxed at the same rate. Each dollar you make is taxed at x%. Unless you are getting taxed at 100% on the money you're deducting (in which case it's neutral ev) you still lose (1-x)*donation amount.

As an easy example say someone donates 100k to charity and would have been taxed at 30% of it. If he didn't donate he would have 70k. If he did donate, he would have 0. You can see that even if he deducts 100k he still only saves 30k and has still lost 70k on his 100k donation.
12-21-2013 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dantes
"I cheated, lied, and vouched for a scammer to help perpetuate fraud, but I take offense to being called a scammer."
I was the first person to discover Girah had cheated. When I figured it out, he begged me not to tell anyone, and then disappeared. I was the one who went to his sweating/coaching group--the people he scammed--and told them about it.

Yes, I did vouch for someone who ended up being a cheater. Many people did. I did vouch for him more than others, because I cared a lot for him. I'll admit to that. But over the course of the scandal, I discovered he had lied about many things to me too. He wasn't who I thought he was.

You can read about all the details in the thread I linked.
12-21-2013 , 03:06 PM
So what will you do after your $10,000 is gone? That will obviously run out very fast.. You will start playing poker/scamming again? The profit from your book will almost certinly not be able to support you for much longer after your 10k is gone. Will you get a real job?
12-21-2013 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GutPunch
So what will you do after your $10,000 is gone? That will obviously run out very fast.. You will start playing poker/scamming again? The profit from your book will almost certinly not be able to support you for much longer after your 10k is gone. Will you get a real job?
After my 10k is gone, if I can't support myself through mental coaching or through this book, then yes. I'll get a real job.

Either that or start dumpster-diving.
12-21-2013 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dantes
"I cheated, lied, and vouched for a scammer to help perpetuate fraud, but I take offense to being called a scammer."
And people pay him for Mental Coaching. rofl.gif
12-21-2013 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by zachvac
This isn't even true. You don't get put into a "bracket". The first 10k you make and the first 10k bill gates makes are taxed at the same rate. Each dollar you make is taxed at x%. Unless you are getting taxed at 100% on the money you're deducting (in which case it's neutral ev) you still lose (1-x)*donation amount.

As an easy example say someone donates 100k to charity and would have been taxed at 30% of it. If he didn't donate he would have 70k. If he did donate, he would have 0. You can see that even if he deducts 100k he still only saves 30k and has still lost 70k on his 100k donation.
Sorry, you're absolutely right, haha. In that case, there's no particular reason to donate to charity for "tax purposes."

Donating to charity does increase your buying power by 30% (or whatever the taxable rate is) though. E.g., if you make 100k in a year taxed at 30%, spending half your income on diamonds is going to give you $35k in diamonds (because 15k of that half of your income goes to taxes), but spending half you income on charity gives you $50k of capital for a charity. So the tax advantage in donating is on the final purchasing power of your money for the charity, not for you.
12-21-2013 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by HaseebQ
But over the course of the scandal, I discovered he had lied about many things to me too. He wasn't who I thought he was.
Are you looking for sympathy? I realize you say you're all about integrity now that you have been exposed. Good luck with that, but I'm not interested in giving you the benefit of the doubt. Actions speak louder than words, go be a good person instead of trying to tell us about it.
12-21-2013 , 03:15 PM
During the unfolding of the Girah/Haseeb/Jungleman scandal, there was never, not once, a time when Haseeb was forthright about a single fact or detail of his involvement. The pattern was repeated over and over and over again: Haseeb would lie, get caught in a lie, make up more lies as an excuse for the lie, and then lie some more.

The full extent of the fraud and collusion involving the concocted Girah personality will never be known. For instance, Haseeb lied about ever acting as an agent/manager for Girah, but then it was learned that he had done exactly that. He eventually admitting to lying about not writing Girah's 2+2 posts. The effort put into the Girah hype was incredible. Fake accounts were created to talk about Girah. The infamous Sam Chauhaun chip dump was advertised on Twitter as a legit match.

Yet despite all this effort to fabricate a winning HS persona, despite acting on his behalf and managing details of his professional life, Haseeb still claims that he had no idea that Girah was competing in the Lock Poker Pro Challenge, to give just one example.

Last edited by baudib1; 12-21-2013 at 03:21 PM.
12-21-2013 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LolZombies
I just want to say though. That when anybody donates a large amount of money to charity they do deserve the recognition for it. If they dont directly or indirectly make it known how would people ever know?

No shame in telling people about it. I imagine it would give him a great feeling when everybody knows. He deserves that.

If i was in a position to donate alot of money id be sneakily leaking it out tbh!
The idea of charity is to give with no thought of anything in return. If you want recognition then that is something in return...you must give and receive nothing back to have the full benefit of giving to charity. It is a spiritual principle.
12-21-2013 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dantes
Are you looking for sympathy? I realize you say you're all about integrity now that you have been exposed. Good luck with that, but I'm not interested in giving you the benefit of the doubt. Actions speak louder than words, go be a good person instead of trying to tell us about it.
No, sorry. That's not what I meant to imply, not at all. I'm just trying to convey the fact that my relationship with Girah was not as straightforward as some people are conveying it.

I am not the only person who knew Girah. People forget that he cheated a number of people, he was in this big sweating/coaching group to begin with, and he coached lots of players. If Girah was an "invented person," then this would have to be a huge conspiracy, extending to many, many people.

Sorry, I'm letting this veer toward becoming about me defending my past actions. I don't want to do that. I know that what I did was deeply dishonest, selfish, and wrong. I'm not looking for forgiveness. Before I left poker, I told the whole entire story about everything that happened, and answered every question that was asked of me to the best of my abilities, and to the satisfaction of most of the people who were asking them.

I am trying to start over and change myself for the better, and this is one step in that direction. That's all I can say. I won't claim to be completely selfless--I'm not, clearly. But I am doing my best.

Last edited by HaseebQ; 12-21-2013 at 03:29 PM.
12-21-2013 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ChoakMyDee
The idea of charity is to give with no thought of anything in return. If you want recognition then that is something in return...you must give and receive nothing back to have the full benefit of giving to charity. It is a spiritual principle.
True actually. I guess i was just being honest. I do donate to things online, or charity boxes etc and not expect anything. But if i donated alot of money i suppose i would want people close to me know that i did it. But, very true what you said!
12-21-2013 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ChoakMyDee
The idea of charity is to give with no thought of anything in return. If you want recognition then that is something in return...you must give and receive nothing back to have the full benefit of giving to charity. It is a spiritual principle.
there isn't just one "idea of charity".
people give for a lot of reasons and it's no less legitimate.

he's probably doing it to both alleviate the guilt on his conscience and to improve his reputation and there's nothing wrong with that.

but if you're going to publicize a completely unknown cause you should at least be able to justify why you chose it over all the others you could have given to, because giving money to a ****ty cause is often worse than not giving at all. there're a lot of charities that're horribly inefficient (if not corrupt).
12-21-2013 , 03:29 PM
send me your wp theme haseeeeeeeeeb plz


i will donate money to charity of your choice for it
12-21-2013 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
send me your wp theme haseeeeeeeeeb plz


i will donate money to charity of your choice for it
A good friend of mine designed it for me. I'll let her know you're a fan, and ask her if she'll send you a copy.
12-21-2013 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Abbaddabba
there isn't just one "idea of charity".
people give for a lot of reasons and it's no less legitimate.

he's probably doing it to both alleviate the guilt on his conscience and to improve his reputation and there's nothing wrong with that.

but if you're going to publicize a completely unknown cause you should at least be able to justify why you chose it over all the others you could have given to, because giving money to a ****ty cause is often worse than not giving at all. there're a lot of charities that're horribly inefficient (if not corrupt).
People are giving me tons of great information on charities, actually. So many causes out there, it's kinda overwhelming to make a good decision. You're absolutely right.

This is the next charity I'm considering giving to.

http://thesimamaproject.org/

One of my criteria for making donations is that I want to make sure a high % of the donation is going directly into projects/spending, and that the charity isn't too large, so there's minimal money going into administrative waste, marketing, fundraising, etc. I also want to be putting the money toward sustainable causes and community building/empowerment, rather than band-aid type solutions. I believe things like food aid or crisis intervention are good, but aren't necessarily the best way to reduce suffering long-term, even if they're sexy causes that we all feel are intuitively important. I've been considering GiveDirectly as well, which has gotten a lot of press lately (with a This American Life feature too), but I need to do more research to decide whether they live up to the hype.
12-21-2013 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
This is tilting me too. Even I understand this concept, and I hardly know anything about being a responsible adult.

Here's a very simplified example on how deductions work:

Let's pretend that everyone in the US has a flat income tax rate of 30%. If you make $100,000/year, then your "taxable income" is 100k, and you owe 30k in taxes.

That's not counting deductions, though. Suppose I donate to charity and write a bunch of stuff off as deductions, totaling $30,000. This does NOT mean that I pay $0 in taxes ($30k - $30k). It means that my "taxable income" now becomes $70,000 ($100k - $30k). I still pay 30% of my taxable income, so now I owe $21,000 in taxes.
Yep there is a big difference between a deduction and a tax credit. They are two separate and distinct items.

A deduction reduces income and a tax credit reduces taxes payable.
12-21-2013 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisgardner
Haters gonna hate. I think its awesome to hook your parents like that. I wish i could pay my parents back for everything.
Surely there's a gas station or something nearby that you could rob to get them some money?
12-21-2013 , 04:37 PM
wp theme means??
12-21-2013 , 04:51 PM
Ooh jungleman tweeting about Haseeb's book now. It's a family reunion! May be a good time to take a break if you are a HS player...

      
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