lol

Maybe it's marketing stunt... but I still make money with poker. Fish... lol I play more than 10 years online. There is plenty of money to make with poker, but it most be hard for you when I read your reply. I know, not everybody is smart enough. State of online poker?! The poker boom is over, like I said earlier, get over it!

dear lord and seriously laughed my azz off.

great post. to the point. one picture.

I dunno. Every time I go to the casino it's 9 playing per table with only 2 actually trying to win.

Live ain't dead.

I love the 'poker is dead' spin because y—d' know what? That's a good thing to say. Some people will think 'hmm...yea it is dead.' Some will disagree. Those who want to believe poker is dead can carry on believing it's dead but will eventually leave. Those who believe otherwise will stay.

In a game where strategy is so quantitatively driven, I don't know how one could play, develop and most importantly - remain happy with the sort of doom and gloom they carry with them every day.

cliffs: It's just the kind of opinion that flushes out the people who shouldn't even be here in the first place.

People that say "online poker is dead" are the same people that say "online poker is rigged" etc. All negative BS! I watch now how many people are playing PS, 117k ffs. Is that dead?! They are not happy in life! But I don't want them to leave poker... I like to play that kind of people...

I really don’t understand how this attitude applies to live poker. Like have these people ever been to the WSOP? Definitely lots of money to be made.

So little change since 2012 then.

Live poker tournaments are breaking records everyday almost....

How your local casino does varies from place to place, but everywhere i go plenty of games are running....

On the GGnetwork, they run 5k's 10k's almost everyday.... 25k on sundays

Just because pokerstars numbers are down , doesnt mean anything.....

Do you guys really believe theres gonna be a world wide black friday or something....

Live poker will be here till the end of time!!!!

Agree.


Disagree. In some places it's high, but it's a lot less these days than most people think.

LOL disagree. Most potential or active poker players don't hold BTC. Therefore they'd have to acquire it somehow with FIAT. That process has a cost equal to or higher than just depositing directly with a gaming operator.

The ‘poker is no longer popular’ logic seems to be the least valid of any. Granted it is no longer as popular, but smaller edges and bots seem to hold more weight.

Are sites far away from being able to quickly identify and ban bots?

Is there a possibility of another poker boom? US legislation changes? China? India?


My personal intentions with poker have shifted recently. I love the game and want to get as good as I can, regardless of results. I want to play the best mtt’s affordable to me, because I love mtt’s and the potential to win big is there. But whether I win or lose, I’m playing anyway and I’m only looking to keep improving. Poker isn’t dead for me.

Why can't you be honest that you wish poker is still as popular so that you have not missed your chance to make serious money?

With all due respect, this is a very round about way of hanging on to your hopes and dreams that the poker dream is still alive. Yes, it is still possible to make money, but it is not a walk in the park anymore and millions and hundreds of thousands are not falling out of the sky just by effectively turning up like before. Do you really need everyone else to confirm for you that it is still possible to make serious money?

You seem to be very sure about your understanding of my psychology.


The original point of this thread has nothing to do with the actual state of poker. Nor what I believe to be the state of poker. Nor about whether it's still possible to make money from poker. It has to do with a narrative that may or may not be deterring new players.

Your quote of mine has nothing to do with me wishing the state of poker is any different to what it is. It talks about how money is a secondary issue to the love of the game, and the desire to improve and compete to my full potential. I said that my mentality has been changing recently.


I'm not sure from where you've extracted the information to form your conclusions. I have had thoughts about what could have been if I had stuck with poker when I first discovered it, perhaps 2007/2008. But those thoughts certainly aren't anywhere near to being the dominating factor of my psychology, nor the underlying cause of this thread.

Most things that people are happy to do for fun don't end up being very profitable avenues for people to pursue work in. Poker will always be around but there's so much information out there for people to get better and pros these days that it's definitely dying compared to yesteryear.

I like how you just ignore everything written prior to your post and stubbornly insist the game is dying lol.

It's not. It's just not for double digits anymore.

its not 'dead' per say and probably never will be but if you dont know how to play in 2019 you shouldnt bother at all

This! I remember on your typical table there were 3 extremely bad fish, then it became 2 and now 1 is wonderful and this was 100NL.

Online poker started it's death spiral with the attachment to the Ports Act, but it became obvious to anybody with the deep recession in 08', so many super fish went bust because of easy credit and unemployment and these fish never returned to online poker.

PS, I remember Party 25NL and the game played like live 1/2 NL on a Saturday night any time you logged in. There was so much donk on donk violence.

List 10.

Lmfao I am in disbelief that you went for 10 rather than 3 or 5 at most. ****ing ten.

LOL

He said "SO MANY"

this implies a fairly large number

Especially given his screen name.

are you serious???

I'll start typing without stopping until I oause for more than 3 seconds... steam of consciousness, no order or edit. my brain to your screen in real time.

game development
programming
investment banking
anything in 3d printing (its the future)
pro craps player
web design
real estate sales
Mason's personal butler
anything in block-chain (blockchain developer the best though)
Plumber in NYC (licensed plumbers make $250+ an hour)
Invent a simple product and put in on Indeigogo and see what happens
Teach English in non english speaking country


k just paused for 5 secs... game over.

seriously though the key is not to pick some random path because you think you'll make the coin.

Its to pick something you enjoy and are passionate about. If you do that ONLY only two things can happen

You make coin and are happy and enjoy life.

You are happy and enjoy life'

both pretty good outcomes.

Fair enough if that is how you feel. However, I have one question for you.

How do you complete your full potential in a game that is partially dominated by luck, finding players that are worse than you and not 100% skill?

If you are unlucky enough and can not financially sustain playing the game for a long enough period of time.... it is highly likely that you will not complete your full potential. I'm sure that has happened to many people (PGCs thread).

Investment banking is past it's golden era, that sector is not as it once was. Plus in investment banking you work crazy hours and burn out and precarious job security during a financial downturn is normal over there.

Real estate sales only works during a boom period and has worked during the last 10 years, due to the central banks QE program. This Helicopter money from the central banks was flooded into the property market via private commercial banks control of the credit supply, willing to lend to secured "Assets" instead of businesses, leading to asset price inflation and property market speculation. Try doing real estate sales in a slowing global economy now. (If you think I am talking nonsense, please refer to the works of the renowned economist Micheal Hudson, there are a couple others but can't say off the top of my head).

The other jobs you mentioned I do not know, so will not comment.