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Originally Posted by monte carloco
That's a good point. I can see it being very frustrating for dedicated and successful female professionals who choose not to use their sex appeal to get recognition that they wouldn't have otherwise received. I suppose some men might even be a bit frustrated as well. For example, youtube has some some world renowned anglers that have been doing it for years with expensive multicam productions and quality content. They get a decent amount of views, but nothing special. Then comes along some newbie college chick that slips on a thong, casts a fishing pole off her dock and is getting 30 million hits.
I guess at that point one could make the argument that they're just not in the same industry, one is simply selling an angler channel while the other is just selling a thumbnail of her ass and is going to get those 30 million views no matter what she does.
Then I guess there's the middle ground, where you have a woman that's truly passionate and is great at what she does, but still mildly uses her sex appeal. She's ok with it, but at the same time may resent the fact that she had to do it, especially if it's only for an avergae amount of recognition/success.
Another interesting point. I realized this over the last couple months or so when trying to figure out wtf is going on with my social life. And then I saw a video recently where Phil Ivey shared a similar sentiment. But anyway, I'll be out with friends, family, strangers, whatever, and I'm put in this position where I feel like I have to manufacture an opinion about something, usually politics. So I try to offer something that might add a slightly differnet prespective or be a bit nuanced, but if it's not in lockstep with everyone else or contain certain buzzwords, then it just creates an awkward situation where I'm subject to bunch of ridicule or judgement over something that I don't even really give a sht about in the first place. It's exhausting.
The good thing about life is there are always reasons being supplied if you wish to be frustrated. It just isn't a great way to spend your time though, if ya think about it. It ties into your last point, but people seeing things through the lens of the person often have a narrower view of an issue. When you offer anything other than an echo, they often take it personally, and then you're in a devil's advocate position that you don't even support in the first place. A lot of the reason why is the reason you offer nuance in the first place. Things that people are fired about are often things they feel strongly about or think about a lot. People think of beliefs as personal to them, which is odd because you arrive in life with 0 beliefs. It seems at times like people are looking for an argument with someone else, but can't get it. They're mad at the person or people in the world that they perceive as an "enemy", but that person is not around so they voice their mock argument against them to anyone who will listen. If you don't want to listen, you become the enemy, and they feel justified in lashing out at you. If you do listen, they still get more and more fired up until eventually you offer some insight/nuance or agreement. Ultimately, it doesn't matter really what you say, because they are still looking to win that imaginary argument against that imaginary foe. It's a bit like passing down cycles of physical abuse. The older sibling hits the younger one because they feel defenseless against the parent. People lash out at easier targets, because they're mad at one they feel helpless against (whether it be some online troll or some actually ignorant person). The good news is that it isn't personal, they barely know you're there. If they did, they'd realize that they pushed you into a devil's advocate position that you didn't hold in the first place. That's true ignorance, forgetting that the other person is just the same as you, and is living this experience.
One of the reasons "no politics no religion" is a good poker rule is because point blank some people are just not sharp enough to discuss them without getting upset. The number of well-intentioned idiots is almost always at an all-time high, and the number of absolute garbage people who think they're saints is competing right along. We're trashhhhhhh. Step one would be realizing that, cuz I don't think there are any really sharp people out there who didn't start with "ohhhhh i'm a wholeass idiot".
Any political or social issue is also eminently complex; there's no quick succinct statements that are going to please everyone nor nail the issue, and not knowing another's level of understanding does sometimes lead to some advice/insight being offered that isn't welcome just because it's always the response offered. This kinda political/social stuff also goes back to people's ideological views also, and people get very agitated when conversations approach those subjects. Not because we cling so strongly to our religious/spiritual beliefs, but because they are generally wholly unexamined, so it's like forcing that person to approach a box they forgot they were scared of. That's another topic altogether, but you will often notice that the more existential the conversation, the more agitated/unreasonable people get.
